Everyone should put more stock in Regional Titles

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Liwus

It sucks that most fans, and even pros, basically the whole community, disregard the league titles ( americas, emea, apac, china) and only treat them as qualifiers for the international tournaments.

For instance, when ppl are discussing Val's GOAT and mention Chronicle's titles, they always say 2 Masters and Lock//In but never mention that he has one EMEA Trophy also.

Aspas doesnt have 1 Champions only, he got that Champions and 2 Americas, Nats won a title in 2023, Paper Rex did win a title.

IMO these titles are harder and more important than Madrid for instance ( not only that, but all the future 8-team masters), specially with regions like EMEA and Americas getting a lot more competitive for the next year.

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thats a good point, they are really overlooked.

but i will say that only stage 2 really matters. kickoff and stage 1 are disney. stage 2 means a lot and the winner receives 100k, whereas kickoff and stage 1 give seeding only, and kickoff seeding is really irrelevant

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Yeah I didnt even consider those, those are actually qualifiers, dont even have a trophy if i'm not misremembering.

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kanyefan4238173

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i thought they did have trophies, they maybe shouldnt. no prize pool no trophy. shit trophy but still

https://x.com/100T_VAL/status/1789830943101903143

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at least on Liquipedia, the teams that got 1st place on kickoff and split1 are treated as "winners" while the winners of split 2 ( or the league for 23) are listed as "Champions". They should add those little trophies next to the players name to represent how many of the league titles they've won like they do for LoL Worlds or MSI

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yeah ive been wanting this feature for a while

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Cheasle2

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Yeah I agree, regional titles should have more weight.

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cloudberry

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"but never mention that he has one EMEA Trophy also"
If my trophy looked like THAT, I wouldn't WANT people to mention it

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Liwus

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Still beats Blast's Dorito trophy ( Paris Major)

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dort

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only titles in Americas count
every other region is horse shit

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Liwus

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America's GOAT Less moved to EMEA, now america is the horse shit region

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dort

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tbh i forgot less even played in our region
brazil is just so irrelevant i hardly notice them

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Average_NA_fan

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stfu bronzilian asspiss is a baiter

chronicle is better

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Liwus

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I love and respect you

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Average_NA_fan

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im straight sorry

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GambleNats

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You also didnt put stock into Chronicle's CIS Masters win

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Liwus

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I'd argue that pre-franchising regional championships are A tier, not S tier. But Chronicle still leads overal with 4 S tier titles, followed by Aspas, Derke, Boaster and Alfajer with 3, and then theres a lot of guys with 2.

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Hades_Loves_Rb

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people dont count them because teams have incentive to throw to do better at intls (ie saving strats etc)

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Liwus

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They dont, less money and worse seeding, its just cope.

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sideshowsbaldhead

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we’re still pretending people care about seeding? in 2024?

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Demon1_The_GOAT

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Regional titles don't mean shit lets be honest.

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Denjisideals

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I don't agree to the last point that they are more important than Masters 1 per say because that's just stupid let's be real. But, I do believe we need to give them more props.