GE unfiltered video

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Darkhunter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpL80DB709I&t=1449s&ab_channel=GlobalEsportsVALORANT
W podcast
We dont need indian players , now i think its not the org but its the players.
these all indian pros shud watch this video and feel ashamed and realise hard truth if org from our own country says we are not good enough....
if this is not the wakeup call for existing pros than i dont know what will be.....

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Actually W , also they seem to have a good approach in the game for picking players and building a team this time and are more confident

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Denjisideals

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Massive dubs actually

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Right now there are 3 radiants from india Techno LF and some account booster. No pro really wants to grind the game here and it sucks

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Denjisideals

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Worse is that they say it on your face that they don't like to grind ranked
Like it's your job, blud
Fuck you mean you don't like it 😭

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EseemedRes1180

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Bro the account booster has more hours than our pros which is crazy. Like i get ranked isn't the best rn but how else can you improve.

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Darkhunter

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this is hilarious... these pros called rite2ace and excali made sarcastic twitter posts saying they changed bio to professional gate keepers like bro they are still not accepting they are not good enough and not grinding 24/7........

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Denjisideals

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Wait what is the context behind this

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Darkhunter

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exactly, these guys win some random indian tournaments and make excuses and go out of india get whopped... i actually want all orgs to start pointing it out to all existing pros

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Denjisideals

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These old pros are so egoistic too
Mfs be 30 and still playing against kids clicking 0.7 ratings at duelist and still brag about it
Like get a job grandpa
Your time is over

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It's nice that GE is planning on making an academy roster

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NOX_-

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People are still gonna get triggered while watching this video that contains all FACTS

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feaN

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bro switched from hindi to indian and vice versa 10000 times in 2minutes

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Sanky

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what is indian? btw most of us like to speak hinglish(hindi+english)..so it is common fo us

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thats how most people speak here mix of both English and Hindi

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thats how people speak in india lmao

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Invic_Deep

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Respectfully I don't think you guys are using critical thinking and are getting swayed to a side which is clearly not completely untrue.
GE as on org has been repeating this for 2 years now and yet have played 2 of their players in T1.
Their lecture only starts when it comes to guys who haven't played for them.
I would simply ask a question would you ever apply for a job where recruiter has already rejected you and people of your qualification before the interview ??
I would not and that's why GE barely had a dozen Indian pros willing to trial.

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NOX_-

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because they also know they are underqualified for the trials

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Invic_Deep

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Simply not true just putting across a simple point - whenever a trial is held in Singapore server any Indian pro literally is playing a stacked field at a disadvantage and if you have played it you know how much difference the ping makes. And if you haven't you can always compare Azys' stats when he plays from his home and when he bootcamps in India - it's night and day.

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Sanky

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They touched the ping topic(about how dos9 reached top 4-5 radiant) in their video. While I hard agree on the ping topic, do you think except the best 2 indian pros, anyone else would have given miraculous stats while playing in singapore server?

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Invic_Deep

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Dos9 reached top 5 bcz he is exceptionally gifted and that was him determined to make most of his only chance to make it to T1.
I anyways don't agree on hard naming any 2 indians as best 2 bcz the truth is we have around 10 players who are more or less equally good and none of them are exceptionally good but if you call yourself "Indian representative" it's only fair if Indians get advantage and not vice-versa happens.

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Sanky

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There is potential among the 10 players agreed, but I like to name this 2 players because they perform consistently in challengers and they grind hard in ranked, and leaving this 2 everyone else has only countable days where they perform insane and hope everyone to remember that 1 insane performance.
Indian representative gave chances to Indians in both the seasons but did they perform good? One more funny fact you wanna know Gentlem8 literally won ascension with all french roster but still decided to bring foreign players and not continue with the all french team since they finished last in the prev season and this year it is their make or break season. If an all indian team guarentees we wont win anything, why will someone wanna try that in 1st place? only to prove their patriotism?

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Gentlem8 gave them a season to try and prove themselves and didn't dismiss the whole french scene through tweets like " french players will hurt comptetive integrity" and on videos without giving them even a split to prove themselves.
Also they are changing roster this season bcz riot's new system of relegation has forced them to try and outperform Apeks , a situation GE doesn't have to face thankfully bcz they are permanent representation of "Indian" scene in T1.
Also just curios which 2 players are you referring to who have been consistently performing in challengers ??

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Venka and Techno
Ok leave Gentlem8, what about Koi(spanish),KC(French), Giantx(spanish), Heretics(spanish), Vitality(French).

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Invic_Deep

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Again all of them tried initially and when they didn't they all went heavy trying to build a star roster which can go INT. I can answer this better but I would need to research a bit bcz I am not very knowledgeable about EMEA T2 .
I knew you would name these 2 and that's what I wanted to point out bhai it's recency bias , these 2 have been around for 2+ years now and have only started playing well literally from split 1 this year. Nobody even took their names at this time last year and you can check off season stats from last year they are nowhere in even Top 10. On top of that Venka retires. every 2 months and has low work ethic. The actual consistent guys are Deathmaker , Rawfiul, Hoax , Karm1l who have been topping the charts since 2021 with an off tourney here and there. If you dont trust me watch these stats-
Split 3 just completed- https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2155/challengers-league-2024-south-asia-split-3?exclude=27057.27058.27059.27060.27061.27062.27063.27064.27065.27066.27067.27068.27150.26833.26834.26835.26846.26847.26848.26836.26837.26838.26839.26840.26841.26208.26209.26210.26211&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1966/omen-challengers-league-2024-south-asia-split-1?exclude=23208.23209.23210.23211.23212&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2073/challengers-league-2024-south-asia-split-2?exclude=25307.25012.25013.25027&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1820/the-esports-club-challenger-series-10?exclude=21075&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1791/predator-league-india-2024
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1727/emg-series-south-asia?exclude=20154.20155.20156.20157.20158&min_rounds=0&agent=all
I will put older ones in other reply notice which names keep repeating in top 5

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Sanky

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The reason I am giving these two names because they are young in age and have outgrinded everyone else(especially techno). Now going by the names you provided

Deathmaker- For me would have been the best player of India only if his work ethic wasn't shit. He is a Saturday party culture lover and see his no of ranked games played. i know he has raw talent and will outfrag everyone but in game knowledge increases only by playing. So in short fragging prowess is off charts but in game knowledge is shit. I know he had some wrist issues, but this scene is unforgiving, so it sucks but it is what it is
Rawfiul - For me he is an insane player trapped in a wrong team, or I would say he is under an wrong leadership.
The leader makes his team believe that they can outfrag anyone but take this team outside of SA, and we all know the result.
Hoax - He is good but of all the names mentioned here he is dead last. He is decent igl and decent flex.
Karam1l - Insane potential but he is in a team for max 1 month before hopping to another. If he gets into a stable org he will do insane, but I have heard he has comms issues(I might be wrong)
But please dont show me split 3 stats, OG team didn't have the actual roster playing,neither was RVNT playing . It was just a off season tourney, so stats from this tourney dont matter

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Sanky

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Bro 90% of the stats you have shown is against SA players only. So only Indian players will come on the top.. Split1, split2, these are the tourneys where it mattered. I cant go on saying C9 will be insane team only because they won in Redbull NA champs. They have to perform good where it matters the most

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Sanky

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I dont think you know the most part of tryouts that was happening..It was open to all, + why do you think they were rejected? Techno went till last stages of tryouts whereas many pros(outside of India) were out.. You ask yourself who are the deserving ones from our country and the no wil be either one or two. For me the best deserving was techno but as far as i want to have him in the roster there is literally Sultan who was top in stats in both challengers and ascension. Leave him he was an import, they have papichulo who literally carried NAOS. Now do you want him to go on a home quota and tick off the deserving ones?

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It has never been about home quota but if we keep moving ahead with this thinking we will never have anyone capable enough from our home to reach there without home quota and once you don't hv anything to play for the scene will eventually die.
I am all in for GE being a top org bringing a superstar team and aiming for master and champions - I will happily get behind them and cheer for our org and not talk about Indian players in that case.
But with all the respect to new roster I have followed most of them for long and they are all top talents in T2 well most are but do I think this is that star roster which will net championships and hence is a good trade off for letting our scene to fend for themselves ?- I don't think so...
When you let 2-3 players from India play there at T1 it will automatically light fire in others and give them motivation to outperform their fellow players and take those spots and improve in process. Otherwise you can keep trying to rile them up calling them lazy and what not and they have all the pressure and anger in the world to take out at just one tourney a year- ascension and they will inevitably keep choking.

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GE isn't a superstar org with huge amount of funding to rope in star players and then we expect them to go far and beyond, so they tried out the heretics approach of taking cracked tier-2 pros unknown to most of the public but trust me the scouters are hyped about the signings. They are cracked but dont have the exposure, so one can only hope them to click, but if they click, trust me we might do something good in pacific stage. Coming to your 1st topic, it is true if we keep on having the loser mentality the scene will die, that's where I have an issue with GE. For me they should have created the academy pipeline 2 years ago.. Because in india the orgs are so shit, that they take a cracked individual who has no experience and they expect him to perform or they get kicked out. For ex - RGE. So I hope the academy pipeline thing works wonders for GE and they execute it to its true potential, and many other orgs follow the same footstep.

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I know most of might think they are criticising Indian players which means they dont want indian players, but no one is proving the theory wrong also.. Trust me once Techno or Venka will top the charts in challengers or ascension, I will literally riot if they dont get into GE.

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jazzb

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You rioting will not do shit lol

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Sanky

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figure of speech bro.. I wont go and riot infront of their office

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jazzb

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I mean to say they will do what's best for them not the fans

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yea if they start listening to fans they will end up like bleed

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Sanky

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Agreed

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Invic_Deep

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If ascension is only place to prove them wrong it's kind of hard no once a year in a super unstable scene where nothing really exists and everything is an unchartered territory. Indian T2 is a place where teams try to achieve short term glory by throwing money on finest import they can find who is willing but they only get a good coach 2 months before split 2 and sometimes only after qualifying.
#WLD core playing as No salary peek looked good in predator pacific last year but what they got in return ?- Dropped from org , non-payment, no bootcamp and couldn't even qualify to next year ascension as a result....
https://www.vlr.gg/team/14418/no-salary-peek

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If I remember correctly, Venka topped the charts in VCSA Split 2 playoffs, and almost defeated RNT singlehandedly (the one with Sultan and Dos9, not Severine). He not only outperformed the imports from his own team, but also the ones from other teams. And so did Techno (I think he had the highest rating in his team and overall top 5).

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My question is why the fuck did they get a spot in T1 to represent India only to barely have any indian players on it. It's just pointless.

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Next season if they drop a stinker! They will lose both Indians fans and temporary Filipino fans.