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Truth about esports

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#1
Mortadelo

https://x.com/sheep_esports/status/1838273059507052549?s=46
Orgs are simply not profitable.
FNC has a huge fanbase, is well run, doesn't make massive splashes and is one of the most legendary orgs there is

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jixk
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no one can convince me esports isn't a money laundering scheme

#3
Bluelive
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Crazy to me how Esports can be put in the same line as "Worthy investment", Alot of teams stepdown because of how bad it is unless your Prizepool for events are too high to miss out on

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SAMPV6
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I'm pretty sure it's going to level at some point but all these orgs are bleeding money left and right

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kamisavitar
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It's 2023,
WOULDN'T FNC BUNDLE and EU winning and following sponsorship would hv lessed it?
I mean if they have guts to THINK of Buying out Kaajak, they must HV some backups

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Mortadelo
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It says they earn 5.91M from Digital revenue Cs and LOL stickers and the Valorant Bundle

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gamergirl
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yeah from lock in and champs 2023, 2024 they prob have a smaller net loss since CS stickers are also doing better

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CanadaMan
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Realistically the only way for ORGs to be successful financially is through the content side of things. Look at Sen, they are probably the more successful org in valorant and literally all of that comes from all of the content creators they have and the content they post on their own company socials.

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only way to make profit in esports is to invest little/no money into players (give them barely livable wages), never pay buyouts for top players, have insane scouting, sell those players to other clubs for profit, repeat, only do this in games you have specialties in so you have minimal failures, have an extremely small staff team, force all players and staff to make content and build a brand (optic/faze). good example of this is paper rex, but they could do a better job of doing media imho

#11
IHaveAnswers
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So basically be like LOUD?

#12
kaninv
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LOUD is more "profitable" than a lot of orgs but they definitely aren't making a profit due to LoL salaries and how little of the players they have that are being paid off by being sold, even if it is some big names. in general they're doing great and orgs with stream heads is REALLY good (such as KC as well) to build branding and media that creates revenue but I think LOUD pays too much + doesn't sell enough + some of their teams are unprofitable.

still a top org investment wise after all of this.

#8
ionlyHave1Zuni
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any good hearted soul to tell me what the xweet says

#10
Mortadelo
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FNC has a net profit of -6.37 million euros this year

#13
kumi
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are there any mckinsey analysts on vlr

#16
IonlywatchvcjXD
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It doesn't take a McKinsey analyst to understand there's not really any consistent income any orgs can have, while equipments and studio cost are crazy and the players are paid like they're Google employee 😂.

So you're draining money with nothing to replace them.
And even if they do e.g merch. The cost of producing one will eventually outpace the revenue.

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Mortadelo
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I mean I'm sure they make money in other ways, passive incomes, revaporization of their assets etc

FNC's value grows and is probably worth a 1 or 2 hundred millions. Problem is you depend on outside investment and the moment you lack that you're fucked. It's just not sustainable

#15
PooFaceCe
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Yup, only profitable orgs are ones that are content heavy.

Strictly competitive just as a business model could pretty much never turn you profitable unless you're in one game and you just win win win win win every event

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