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Sideshow come

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#1
SaltyMcNulty

Is this guy stupid or what? He's saying TenZ only played good against Team Heretics and only gave Zekken credit for showing up!

https://www.youtube.com/live/jZWtkhZeluc?si=ZWPhv-FVHNvYFcFf starts at 55:30

This is TenZ's Catalogue for the tournament except that TH game and the Fnatic game where he played bad statistically( still had great impacts)

What is this guy smoking in the British Land? Have they discovered something better than Opium?

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kanyefan4238173
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tenz was ok before heretics

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SaltyMcNulty
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He was very important in winning the GenG and DRX game. If you say that's just okay performance you are just being revisionist just like FraudShow and trying to create a fake narrative.

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then what do u want to say if ok isnt fitting. ur using stats and rating to say (idek what ur trying to say, tenz was ok, not great) wtv

but tenz stats before heretics were the 4th best on his team, zekken and sacy were better until then

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I am using stats because sideshow said 'statwise'. If I make the argument impact wise, it's even more easier for me. I literally showed you his stats before that game. Why are you lying? LMAO https://prnt.sc/FcIZ5oj6_LVg

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kanyefan4238173
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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2097/valorant-champions-2024?exclude=26237.26238.26241.26242.26219.26220.26221.26222.26224.26227.26228.26229.26230.26231.26232.26233.26234&min_rounds=250&agent=all

tenz was ok, he wasnt bad, and he rlly showed up against heretics, but this post is so useless. i still dont know what you wanted to do. also i just noticed you cropped out his worst game to make it look better LMFAO

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envyz
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he said before FNATIC was his worse game but still showed up big when needed like the 4K to win Sunset

#22
kanyefan4238173
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still retarded because obviously sideshow would consider that game when he said tenz "wasnt doing very much"

as did i when i said he was ok

#25
envyz
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yeah he was decent still the 9th best player at champs so I guess everyone below him is just shit.

#29
kanyefan4238173
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wtf r u yapping about. where is tenz 9th? without the heretics game (the discussion of this post) tenz is 24TH in rating

#32
SaltyMcNulty
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why are you counting players that weren't even in the playoffs? LOL

#65
envyz
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prior to the FNATIC game he was top 10 lol we can take away games all we want

#35
SaltyMcNulty
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Sideshow said "tenz was not doing very much before the TH game" and I just proved that he's categorically lying since his only bad game was against FNC. Before that he was the best player or the second best in every other game despite playing a support role. How does this post not serve any purpose? Just cz you are mad and not ready to reason with me despite me providing all the evidence?

#39
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ur replied to wrong person but im here is ok 😘

and saying he wasnt doing very much isnt quantifiable, it doesnt even mean he was bad.

im saying your post serves no purpose because ur almost just trying to find the line between 'ok' and 'good' which is pointless cause sideshow said it as a one off comment. ur making such a big thing out of a single sentence which wasnt even objective

also idk how you can say im mad when you made a whole post because sideshow didnt glaze tenz 1.04 rating

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GambleNats
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list of players who played supportive roles and is better than tenz prior to the heretics game

Controller players:
Chichoo
Smoggy
Mindfreak
Luoking

Played controller:
Riens
Autumn
Yetujey
Shyy
keznit
JhonQT
Primmie
Chronicle

Intiator players:
Trexx
Chronicle x2
'Riens x2
Alfa
Sacy
kicks

#3
Paraplant
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didn’t he make 2 videos glazing sen after their geng win?

#11
SaltyMcNulty
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It seems he has a personal vendetta against TenZ but not sure if he hates SEN as well.

#15
BulkyLettuce
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yes, but he said Tenz played bad this tourney and it was all because of zekken why they won

#4
tungsten_cube_
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bro said Sideshow Come like hes gonna respond to ur vlr post

#5
senhater101
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All of s0n played like frauds, sideshow was being generous lol

#6
michaelisupset
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hey sideshow here

#7
SaltyMcNulty
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Mind you he's an Omen player. He can't farm stats when they are collectively playing bad and his team is losing. If he tries that his stats will go positive but the team won't get any help. Him and Zekken entry style only works because he takes risks and is not afraid of having bad stats so naturally when that team strategy doesn't work his stats will take a hit.

#8
AlexSMTx
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Hi I'm Sideshow 👨‍🦲

Yes, I stand by my statement have a good day

#62
sideshowsbaldhead
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this guy is a fraud, that being said i do stand by the statement

#9
GambleNats
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besides heretics, tenz was like decent, sideshow is right

#12
SaltyMcNulty
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Heretics game wasn't even his best game in the tournament lol

#13
GambleNats
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wdym, he did great against heretics, ass against fnatic, mediocre against drx, great agaisnt geng and good against fpx.

at best he did good overall

#21
SaltyMcNulty
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https://prnt.sc/DKlvXHSf-7-q
They are literally side by side in the statboard. One gets praised for having a stellar tournament(rightfully so) , the other gets slandered despite him playing a support role. Go figure!

He wasn't just decent, he played very good against DRX and EDG. They shoulda won against EDG, not his fault.

#34
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side by side because you have the heretics game. he has a 1.04 rating if you dont include the heretics game. sacy did better than tenz overall if you dont include the heretics game. fucking luoking did better than tenz if you dont include the heretics game

#38
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I included Zekken's heretics game as well where he did very well statswise. so what's wrong? Sideshow's narrative was Zekken did very well this tourney but TenZ did nothing when both of them had one bad game. TenZ against Fnatic and Zekken against GenG the very first game.
I showed TenZ's stats before the last 2 games and attached it to the OG post. There's nothing to hide there. He was great against GenG 2nd time, DRX, FPX. It's not like they played 30 games in the tournament.

#42
GambleNats
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sideshows narrative was tenz was nothing special till heretics game. which is just statstically true. including the heretics game makes no sense as thats when sideshow said tenz was good

#48
SaltyMcNulty
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It is NOT statistically true. I just showed u that https://prnt.sc/FcIZ5oj6_LVg If you could reason beyond the capacity of a toddler oml

#49
GambleNats
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that shows nothing compared to the other players. just check the vlr stats and get rid of the heretics game. 1.04 rating, placed 24th overall

#16
BulkyLettuce
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he didnt say decent, he said tenz had a bad tourney

#19
GambleNats
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"and before that tenz wasnt doing very much" as in he wasnt game winning, he was nothing special. dont see how you can infer this as tenz was bad

#24
SaltyMcNulty
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https://prnt.sc/FcIZ5oj6_LVg this is 'not doing very much' btw. Only if you were smart enough to click on the screenshot I attached to the post that exactly showed the games before FNC and TH.

#26
GambleNats
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you replied to a message I sent before sending the screenshot, then complained I didnt consider your screenshot before sending that message???

#28
SaltyMcNulty
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Literally ATTACHED THE SAME SCREENSHOT in the OG post. Are you fr blud? LMFAOO

#30
GambleNats
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https://prnt.sc/DKlvXHSf-7-q

where

#41
SaltyMcNulty
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check #24. Literally the above reply

#37
BulkyLettuce
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group stage + playoffs at champs:

zekken was 7th in rating with 1.12
tenz was 8th in rating with 1.10

"zekken was carrying" "tenz wasnt doing very much"

btw the 3rd highest rated on the team sacy had 1.01 rating placing him at 17th highest rated in the tourney. If tenz wasnt doing much then what did the other 3 members of SEN do?

#44
GambleNats
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prior to the heretics game (which is what we are talking about)

sacy had a 1.06 rating
TenZ had a 1.04.

TenZ was only above zellsis in sen until heretics

#46
BulkyLettuce
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heretics was their most important game of the tourney btw so excluding it is disingenuous to the fact that he ended the tourney with a 1.10 rating and was the 8th highest rated in the tourney with zekken being 7th highest rated

#47
GambleNats
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sideshow is literally saying tenz did fuck all until the heretics game where he popped off. which means he isnt wrong

#50
BulkyLettuce
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again, heretics was their most important game of the tourney btw so excluding it is disingenuous to the fact that he ended the tourney with a 1.10 rating and was the 8th highest rated in the tourney with zekken being 7th highest rated with 1.12.

We are talking about the entire tourney and not excluding any matches to prove a narrative

#52
GambleNats
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if u include the heretics game, you are agreeing with sideshow. sideshow didnt say tenz did bad overall, he said tenz was hella mid until the heretics game.

#54
BulkyLettuce
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wasnt sideshow praising sacy on his form and how good he looked? how is 0.02 rating less than sacy up until the heretics game "not doing much"? Excluding such an important game such as the heretics one to push a narrative is dumb af

#53
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https://prnt.sc/FcIZ5oj6_LVg This is 'fuck all' btw. Are you stupid? I can just tell that you haven't watched the GenG, DRX or EDG game. He was as good as Zekken or anybody else in terms of pure impact. We are making the stat argument for a support player just for the sake of showing that Sideshow is wrong. Stat shouldn't even be an argument when you watch those games and see the impact he had in those games.

#55
GambleNats
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top 24. that is a mid ass performance.

#61
GambleNats
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Just realised tenz was the worst performing non igl smokes in playoffs without the heretics game

#23
envyz
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he played good this event his worse series was vs FNATIC where he still had high impact kills and you can discard this but he was probably the best player on Map 3 vs EDG he literally just didn't have teammates.

#27
SaltyMcNulty
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I am so tired of people trying to undermine this guy always and on top of that when a respective figure like sideshow continues to peddle this narrative time and time again no matter how good he does is kinda saddening ngl

#31
kanyefan4238173
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its sad he said tenz was okay 😂

#36
envyz
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I don't know what people want him to do when's he's an aggressive player on a restrictive role like Omen lol there isn't much you can do instead of Anchoring which he does a lot on defense and he's still on a new role but I do agree SEN need to get him more proactive in team fights etc and just have JohnQT play Anchor.

#43
humble_y0y_10k
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stay mad he shit on your idol

#51
Dattadri_sai
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u mad ?

#60
SaltyMcNulty
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Why would I be mad? I am not a Fnatic fan who lost their best player and won fuck all the whole year LOL

#64
Rey55
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Sideshow only watches ratings and when it comes to slandering tenz he doesn't even bother to check that lol. But he doesn't hate TenZ, it's just a 'moderation' mechanism from him because tenz fans rate him higher than where he should be.

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