best players to win nothing

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queueK

top 5 players who've never won internationally

f0rsaken - been good since 2021, extremely flexible and highly consistent
mako - been good since he was picked up, creates insane value from uncommon position
jingggg - top 3 entry player of all time
keznit - honestly i think he would've won an event already, given a better team
sayf - realistically the only reaosn he hasn't won because EMEA outside of FNATIC has been ass for so long. i still think he's top 5 ITW on jett

honorable mentions: d4vai/mindfreak/something/heat/mwzera/stax

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mako?

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yeah ngl i forgot DRX didn't win anything, edited my goat in

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Mako >

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jingggg - top 3 entry player of all time

im gonna have to stop you right there

he's decent but, top 3??? oat????

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either you started watching valorant in 2024 or you're being obtuse

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top 10 oat at the very least ill give you
but top 3 is a biiiig stretch

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only derke and aspas are better than him and i'd argue jinggg is a better entry than aspas. people like to forget how much of a monstrous pace setter 2022-2023 jinggg was

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Aspas, Derke, Zekken, Jawgemo, KK, T3xture, and Sayf are all better than Jinggg.

Edit: forgot T3xture

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not a chance. we'll see if t3xture, kangkang and zekken maintain their current form then we'll talk about any of them surpassing jinggg as an all time entry. wont even adress jawgemo and sayf because you actually cant be serious with these two mentions

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Only can entry with Pre nerf raze satchels. Zekken, aspas, t3xture, KK clear

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just wanna mention that all the other duelists you mention have trophies 💀

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nihso

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oh i didnt even realize LMFAO. miniboo, buzz, sayf clear

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queueK

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i also zekken is def better than jinggg rn but he hasn't been this good for long enough imo. i also think peak jinggg got way more impactful entry kills than zekken has ever done with way less support and setup.

saying kangkang is a better entry pre champs isn't accurate, imo he was always better at holding sites and op-ing than he was at the entry / retake.

aspas does indeed clear jinggg

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We're just going to ignore his form in 2022 and 2023?
Hell, 2024 wasn't even a bad year for jing, he just didn't live up to the "crazy raze player" expectations everyone had for him when he returned and replaced monyet

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j0ng😭

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At this point just say the whole of P0operex why leave Something out of it. After Davai he's the best player they have.

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I think the guys from Heretics could be added as well
I would love to say Cauanzin but Loud was washed this year

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where is s0m?? hes better than all those players

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Hard agree, but after that harbour cove.

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Only played like 1 year at the highest level but he was damn impressive can't lie

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include 4 of the TH players as honorable mentions while you’re at it lol

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queueK

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TH is good but it's still too early imo. additionally i think TH is kinda like EG where the quality of the team as a whole is better than the sum of the five players making it. i don't think c0m, jawgemo, or boostio are really s-tier players on their own but 2023 EG was definitely an incredible team. i feel similarly about 2024 Heretics.

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idk something doesnt feel like the pacific smurf that mvps every game like he used to, hes playing a more passive role now and a more supportive role cuz of the meta
well see in 2025 though of how the meta changes, would love to see him on full duelist again
alecks mentioned that they lost to EDG because they were playing too safe because it was an elim match, so i feel they just need to be themselves liek the 2023 prx after jingg is back
jingg wasnt performing well cuz he left due to MS hopefully with off season the team would look like a top contender again

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Oxy the Valorant Prodigy.

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sayf xD

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queueK

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i mean, for most of the time he played duelist / chamber it was really only derke and maybe a one season wonder player who you could put over him. and the difference between them was never that big.

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Buzz, mako, something, forsaken, jing, d4v4i, mindfreak, jamppi, sayf, cryocells, asuna

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Snuck in Asuna LMFAO

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f0rskin here like hes not a certified finals choker