best players to win nothing

top 5 players who've never won internationally

1. f0rsaken - been good since 2021, extremely flexible and highly consistent
2. mako - been good since he was picked up, creates insane value from uncommon position
3. jingggg - top 3 entry player of all time
4. keznit - honestly i think he would've won an event already, given a better team
5. sayf - realistically the only reaosn he hasn't won because EMEA outside of FNATIC has been ass for so long. i still think he's top 5 ITW on jett

honorable mentions: d4vai/mindfreak/something/heat/mwzera/stax

mako?

Mako >

jingggg - top 3 entry player of all time

im gonna have to stop you right there

he's decent but, top 3??? oat????

j0ng😭

At this point just say the whole of P0operex why leave Something out of it. After Davai he's the best player they have.

Aayan [#4]

jingggg - top 3 entry player of all time

im gonna have to stop you right there

he's decent but, top 3??? oat????

either you started watching valorant in 2024 or you're being obtuse

I think the guys from Heretics could be added as well
I would love to say Cauanzin but Loud was washed this year

Aayan [#4]

jingggg - top 3 entry player of all time

im gonna have to stop you right there

he's decent but, top 3??? oat????

Only can entry with Pre nerf raze satchels. Zekken, aspas, t3xture, KK clear

where is s0m?? hes better than all those players

nihso [#9]

Only can entry with Pre nerf raze satchels. Zekken, aspas, t3xture, KK clear

just wanna mention that all the other duelists you mention have trophies 💀

sergueiessenine [#7]

either you started watching valorant in 2024 or you're being obtuse

top 10 oat at the very least ill give you
but top 3 is a biiiig stretch

nobody___100 [#11]

just wanna mention that all the other duelists you mention have trophies 💀

oh i didnt even realize LMFAO. miniboo, buzz, sayf clear

dort [#10]

where is s0m?? hes better than all those players

Hard agree, but after that harbour cove.

include 4 of the TH players as honorable mentions while you’re at it lol

dort [#10]

where is s0m?? hes better than all those players

Only played like 1 year at the highest level but he was damn impressive can't lie

Aayan [#12]

top 10 oat at the very least ill give you
but top 3 is a biiiig stretch

only derke and aspas are better than him and i'd argue jinggg is a better entry than aspas. people like to forget how much of a monstrous pace setter 2022-2023 jinggg was

idk something doesnt feel like the pacific smurf that mvps every game like he used to, hes playing a more passive role now and a more supportive role cuz of the meta
well see in 2025 though of how the meta changes, would love to see him on full duelist again
alecks mentioned that they lost to EDG because they were playing too safe because it was an elim match, so i feel they just need to be themselves liek the 2023 prx after jingg is back
jingg wasnt performing well cuz he left due to MS hopefully with off season the team would look like a top contender again

Aayan [#4]

jingggg - top 3 entry player of all time

im gonna have to stop you right there

he's decent but, top 3??? oat????

We're just going to ignore his form in 2022 and 2023?
Hell, 2024 wasn't even a bad year for jing, he just didn't live up to the "crazy raze player" expectations everyone had for him when he returned and replaced monyet

nihso [#2]

mako?

yeah ngl i forgot DRX didn't win anything, edited my goat in

nihso [#9]

Only can entry with Pre nerf raze satchels. Zekken, aspas, t3xture, KK clear

i also zekken is def better than jinggg rn but he hasn't been this good for long enough imo. i also think peak jinggg got way more impactful entry kills than zekken has ever done with way less support and setup.

saying kangkang is a better entry pre champs isn't accurate, imo he was always better at holding sites and op-ing than he was at the entry / retake.

aspas does indeed clear jinggg

Oxy the Valorant Prodigy.

catNmouse [#15]

include 4 of the TH players as honorable mentions while you’re at it lol

TH is good but it's still too early imo. additionally i think TH is kinda like EG where the quality of the team as a whole is better than the sum of the five players making it. i don't think c0m, jawgemo, or boostio are really s-tier players on their own but 2023 EG was definitely an incredible team. i feel similarly about 2024 Heretics.

sergueiessenine [#17]

only derke and aspas are better than him and i'd argue jinggg is a better entry than aspas. people like to forget how much of a monstrous pace setter 2022-2023 jinggg was

Aspas, Derke, Zekken, Jawgemo, KK, T3xture, and Sayf are all better than Jinggg.

Edit: forgot T3xture

sayf xD

Ultia [#24]

Aspas, Derke, Zekken, Jawgemo, KK, T3xture, and Sayf are all better than Jinggg.

Edit: forgot T3xture

not a chance. we'll see if t3xture, kangkang and zekken maintain their current form then we'll talk about any of them surpassing jinggg as an all time entry. wont even adress jawgemo and sayf because you actually cant be serious with these two mentions

-Artorias [#25]

sayf xD

i mean, for most of the time he played duelist / chamber it was really only derke and maybe a one season wonder player who you could put over him. and the difference between them was never that big.

Buzz, mako, something, forsaken, jing, d4v4i, mindfreak, jamppi, sayf, cryocells, asuna

torsion [#28]

Buzz, mako, something, forsaken, jing, d4v4i, mindfreak, jamppi, sayf, cryocells, asuna

Snuck in Asuna LMFAO

f0rskin here like hes not a certified finals choker