dream franchise

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Hobbit

What orgs would you like to see in franchise? for me is
AMERICAS
100 Thieves (North America)
Cloud9 (North America)
FaZe Clan (Brazil)
LOUD (Brazil)
FURIA (Brazil)
G2 (North America)
KRÜ (LATAM)
LEVIATAN (LATAM)
NRG (North America)
Sentinels (North America)
TSM (North America)
-EG -MIBR +FaZe +TSM

EMEA
Fnatic (Western Europe)
FUT (Türkiye)
Gentle Mates (France)
MOUZ (Germany)
Karmine Corp (France)
KOI (Spain)
NAVI (CIS)
Team Heretics (Spain)
Team Liquid (Western Europe)
Team Spirit (CIS)
Team Vitality (France/Western Europe)
-BBL -GX +MOUZ +SPR

PACIFIC
BLEED (Southeast Asia)
Detonation FocusMe (Japan)
DRX (Korea)
Gen.G (Korea)
Paper Rex (Southeast Asia)
RRQ (Indonesia)
T1 (Korea)
Talon Esports (Thailand/Southeast Asia)
Team Secret (Philippines)
Virtus.pro (Australia)
ZETA DIVISION (Japan)
-GE +VP

I can't really make a list on China, sorry

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cloudberry

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TSM could be a reality next year. As for FaZe... Brazil?

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Hobbit

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They have international rosters on some games, they have showed interest with the brazilian scene before. Their R6 division is the best example

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cloudberry

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Got it

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Nef0r0

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virtus pro with an australian lineup? What the fuck is a polar bear doing in Melbourne, Victoria?

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Hobbit

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They have an australian Apex Legends roster. And they would be a much better fit for APAC in my opinion

Australia deserves a spot in franchise, and it's not like there's any good australian org that could get into franchise

And Talon and Team Secret have done this thing where they decide to invest in other regions. Talon is more popular in Korea, but they decided to invest with the Thais, and Team Secret has always been much recognized in Europe, but they invested in the filipinos. I don't really see how Vp wouldn't do the same

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actually surprised, I ve thought it would be difficult for them to expand, since most of russian orgs are a no-go. Also I think spirit aren't interested in valorant afaik, their manager from dota never mentioned an expansion

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I mean, if Riot comes knocking at your door, literally giving you free money only to play their game, I don't know how anyone would say no

And it's not like most teams based in russia pay taxes for russia anyway

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I don't know what riot defies as a russian team, Virtus Pro are now technically an Armenian ORG with a HQ both in Yerevan and Moscow, so idek how riot would solve it. Spirit on the other hand are in Belgrade and are anti war, so I think they could theoratically join

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Laundry

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It would be great to see Australia in pro franchising, but Americas might've been an undercook considering the orgs we have in T2

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Hobbit

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I mean, yeah, you can swap M80 and TSM. But M80 doesn't really have that much of a fanbase

At least TSM has been consistently investing into Valorant, they have Subroza as a streamer, and they're one of the most recognizable esports brand

M80 needs time to grow, and I think that they would ascend anyways

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ianceae

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in the beginning faze was left out because the org never had any real interest in valorant, just like optic.

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Hobbit

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Surely they are more interested than MIBR, they're not even spending their Riot money on their Valorant division XD

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ianceae

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to be honest the problems of G2 and TSM were the ones that probably modified the plans and I assume that MiBr came in as they belong to the Immortals group that riot has already worked with in League, only time could show us how bad mibr's management was.

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cohnr

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faze are a scum org fuck no

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Hobbit

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I must say that I dislike Banks and their group, but FaZe esports it's too massive to not have in franchise

And FaZe is 100% better than MIBR

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cohnr

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sadly banks and his group are the owners, last thing i want to see is more money in his pockets

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Hobbit

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And I think that teams that got into the EWC program shouldn't be able to compete at Valorant, but not all of us get what we want anyways

Others orgs in franchise have scummy owners or investors, but people only care when it's FaZe

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kick FUT add SuperMassive or Eternal Fire for turkish representation

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Hobbit

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I thought of adding Eternal Fire, but I think that Riot is happy with FUT at the moment

They're consistently qualifying to internationals, they put up decent numbers

I know that SuperMassive got them bag, but I don't know how viable is replacing FUT

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n1cf

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SuperMassive is the biggest org in Turkey, too bad they went downhill in Valorant after SMB times if they didnt we wouldve had them instead of BBL

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Hobbit

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Ye I could take SUP instead of BBL/MOUZ

I only put MOUZ because the EMEA league seed is in Germany and there's no DACH teams somehow