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#1
Vesprit

Bro this site is so dumb you guys are all stupid.
People are saying its a good decision if Zekken retires to pursue a college degree. Like wtf that would be the dumbest decision ever. Why tf bother going to college when you probably get like 50k a month with 19 years. No way youre retiring in the middle of your prime for a dumbass mediocre college degree. Zekken can literally retire already.

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H3ENnZ
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I wont say he can retire already but yea valid

#3
Chi-ari
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vlr bro

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AstroGalaxy
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its smart but hes wasting his prime if he decides to retire and ill miss him as a player because hes good and a cool person :)

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Vesprit
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Smart from a retarded POV or what do you mean?

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AstroGalaxy
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smart from his POV my bad

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Prontera
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What is NPC?

#11
cloudberry
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Non-player character I.e. bot/AI

#12
Prontera
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Oh yeah. Like NPC on my fav online games. Ragnarok, or rising force, or seal.

So this guy basically calling user with stupid comments an AI?

#17
cloudberry
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Pretty much, yeah

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Yuuki___
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You dont know shit buddy

Esports isnt sustainable

Zekken will probably retire before 30

Getting a college degree is a good long term investment

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Vesprit
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Dont talk about sustainable when he could literally invest everything he earned and just live off of the passive income without having to work anymore

#21
KITTT
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and what if that´s his plan for life? what if he wants to do something specific later on and needs a degree for it?

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Prontera
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Like what

#45
KITTT
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idk, i´m not inside his head

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Ausam
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then he can get it later.

#76
KITTT
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and what if he doesn´t want to do it later? funny guy

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Ausam
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Then he does it when he wants?We are not arguing if zekken should do it or not. We are arguing whether its a good idea financially, which it isn't. The odds of him making the same amount of money from a regular job from college is extremely low. If zekken wants to do something then by all means he should do it.

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KITTT
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you know, not everyone wants a lot of money, some people are genuinely okay with just getting by

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Ausam
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Which is COMPLETELY fine. I was just pointing it out to the people who were saying it financially better for him to quit gaming and go to college, which it isn't

#32
Yuuki___
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Bro

it is not that easy at all

I can tell you are a little kid

You dont know anything about finance lmao

#49
Pras1mos
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What u expect from val.gg?

Do not argue, let they think that being pro player for what? 8 years? Is enough to you entire live.
Streams? Degrees? Companys? Nahh, 8y of pro player pays 50y of life.

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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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It literally does though, brand deals, sponsorships, tournament winnings, salary and stream income

all this is easily like 500k per year and probably more for an influencer of zekken's size (avg 4k viewers when 1k streamers get 25k montly?)

If he properly invests his money with like a financial advisor and stuff he can easily live off of what he'll make before stepping down like zombs did.

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invest everything doesn't workout = broke unless he lives with his parents he doesn't have the money to force it to work even then might not work
college he has the money to pay for legit any degree he wants depending on what degree at what school which is easy to make force it work with smallest amount of research having plan B allows him to invest everything he has knowing he has something to fall back on

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Prontera
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He still can do uni at 25, right?

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Ausam
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u can go to uni any time.

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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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ur dumb af zombs did exactly this and lives off of his dividends n shit and doesnt even have to compete anymore. This was also when salaries were lower and SEN was barely becoming famous.

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Yuuki___
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There are obvious exceptions bozo

If you think it is really that easy you are just an immature little kid

And I can guarantee you he does not live of off dividends lmao

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Vesprit
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I think making smart financial decisions is rather mature than immature

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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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Zombs lives off of his investments and has a rolex collection and luxury cars hes the poster boy for pros can make it big

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Yuuki___
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How old are you

#54
4rrowlol
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this is literally true though

#57
Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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Buddy if zekken makes north of half a mil per year on salary alone and he plays until he is 25 and invests all of his earnings he will be set for life, no need to retire in your prime to go to college early. Offering 500k for several years to get a degree that will make you way less than the like 2mil+ he'd make playing val instead

you just have a bad take

#63
zhongZHI
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if. i dont think they do. orgs def arent paying this much if they dont make any profits

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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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esports loses money all the time, and while 500k per year salary may be a lot with his streaming income and all his sponsorships he easily clears 500k a year in total revenue, but then again NA is known to have pricey salaries so who really knows

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nobody___100
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probably 30k a month tops, and even then, it’s not gonna last for long, maybe until he’s 30 at most and that’s if he becomes an igl eventually
getting a degree means he can have stable income until he’s 60+

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Vesprit
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Bro do you know how much money he would make playing for another 10 years?
Probably like 5 Million wdym by stable income when you can have 5 Million in Cash to invest

#25
StalwartTiger_35
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Zero guarantee that esports will last that long, I agree that he should stick with it though, he can still make bank from streaming

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Yuuki___
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Just out of curiosity, how old are you?

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Prontera
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I cant count how many times in this thread alone u asked ppl about their age. U seems obsessed. So fucking weird. How old are u? 10?

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Yuuki___
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This thread just reeks of little kids who know nothing about finance

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sergueiessenine
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it's smart considering that he'll be back to being a mid duelist that cant attend intls once actually good players/orgs (demon1, jawgemo, oxy, loud/nrg) get their shit together

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SEN might actually have a shot at winning a real trophy if botkken retires

#18
kanyefan4238173
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ur right bro, ppl disagreeing have no idea

his contract is hefty and he makes so much from social media and streaming. a degree is always cool but its easier to go back to college later than it would be to go back to esports. on top of that what would he even study? how worth it would it be

#20
nihso
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idk but this one user called Vesprit is pretty npc to me

#22
Aayan
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this is one of the few times where I think focusing on studies is not more important, you can go to uni (college) whenever, and zekken is arguably in the prime of his career.

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kanyefan4238173
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exactly bro, idk how so many people overlook that. he can go back to school when hes washed instead of now

we saw GIA rhyme retire and go back to school last year at like 24/25

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1k streamers earn like 25k a month based on the recent twitch income leaks

Zekken is set for life whether you speds believe it or not, not to mention NA salaries are huge $$$

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Just because you want him to motivate you to play valorant and not go outside, doesn't mean he can't decide his own future 😭having a college degree is crucial for making plan B if plan A (Gaming) doesn't work out. There are those dumbfuck onliners who shit talk a lot and demotivate gamers to quit. It's better to have second option anytime. Being an American, getting a job is a tough thing and it's better to start studying if you don't want to get kicked out of the race!!!

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Vesprit
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Damn you are the perfect example of a modern slave

#36
ALoKi007
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I mean I just want a second chance if one gets blown.

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jvre
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Genuine question, what is your plan then? are you gonna be LFT while being immortal 3 and hope to make it big? if not then you're also going to be a modern slave. Welcome to the real world

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I don't think you understand how much he makes. If he manages his finances correctly he earns In a month, as much as the median US person does in a year. That means in just over 3 years (we are currently near the end of year 2) he will have made as much as most people will make in their life. And allat is without even considering the fact that he probably makes more from brand deals and streaming

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ALoKi007
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Having an educational degree will be a safe option according to me. He can come to gaming anytime he wishes.

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Aayan
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When you make as much as he does the priority is the other way around, just because your advice may apply to you or me doesn't mean it's objectively the best for him

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ALoKi007
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It's better to be safe than sorry. That's all I am saying.

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Aayan
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If he plays for another year he will get paid at least 600k USD (50 Crore INR). Ofc that's without taxes, but streaming and brand deals will easily more than make up for it. In the US you can enrol into college at any age.

If he goes to college, he will (imo) 80% never play in tier 1 again. Things like mechanics start to go away when you hit like 25 ish, and that's just assuming that VAL esports will still be around in 5 years.

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Well if SEN wins, he will retire and if SEN loses, he will continue playing. He wins either way. Though I am thinking for his long term goals. Good days will always end someday. Like some extraordinary players like Yayster, BONECOLD, mixwell, fns, etc.

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I feel like u dont understand how much a player of zekken's caliber makes. U guys think its like a day job where he gets salary for playing and thats his only source of income. But no, he gets salary per month from the org AND sponsorships and other incomes that we don't even know.He makes money per month that a lot of people dont even make in a year. With that much money he will be set. If he wants to do anything in the future , he can get a college degree later on. The only time zekken should retire is if valorant dies otherwise a player of his caliber will keep making the 1% money.

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Vesprit
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Actually its the other way around. You can study at any age and work at any age but your mechanical still for esports will not be sufficient enough after 30+
You are completely wrong

#38
ALoKi007
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Naah dude 😭It would only take like 3-4 years 😭😭😭we need an American for this debate cause tbh I have no idea how many years it takes to get a degree whatever field. But it might be 3-4 years that's all. He can always practice gaming alongside. Who's stopping him?

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Vesprit
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I actually find it insane that you genuinely believe he should pursue college.

#42
OrGarfield
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You completely misunderstand the entire argument. Zekken is currently in his best spot financially, thus, going to school is absolutely pointless due to his current success. To put in better terms, such a spotlight is lucrative and if he leaves for school, he literally won't be able to have a job concerning esports, due to school overriding practice and games. Additionally, school is open to all ages, therefore, a college degree won't be as vital at this moment. He'll definitely lose more money if he quits esports and streaming altogether, prioritizing school.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/s/Za9zvzBu44

Streamer with 1k Viewers earns $24,000 Monthly

Zekken averages over 4k Viewers easily, add in his SEN contract, sponsors, and tournament winnings

He can legit put his current savings in a HYSA and still get his education while playing games

Do the Math since you're Indian. Getting a Degree is just a side-quest for him

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ALoKi007
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Do the Math since you're Indian.

I wish I could :(

Getting a Degree is just a side-quest for him

That's the same thing I am saying. I am not saying to quit gaming I am saying to do it alongside with studies. Maybe I messed up with my way of conveying. But yeah he can manage doing education along with gaming

#59
Prontera
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No he cant. No one cant. Being pro player take so much of ur time. Competing , traveling, etc. Even Just scrimming or training. U cant do College while being pro players at the Same time.

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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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MiniBoo tried and it didnt work well buddy

#72
Ausam
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Bro he is playing the game 16 hours a day. Where he gonna make time for studying are u a moron?

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ALoKi007
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Are you a school student or do you work?

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Ausam
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U can't compare top athletes to a regular persons work. A regular person can go to school and work yes because their work performance isn't affected much by their school. But a pro player is different. They are the best in their field, so they need to allocate all their time there to be the best.

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ALoKi007
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That's how life works buddy. You have to do more and more to live in today's world with massive competition. Anyways' I just wanted to give my opinion that's all. We don't know why and what he will do hence forth. Let's talk about something different. How are you Ausam? 🥰

#43
Kirya
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Botkken just knows that he will get dropped after his dogshit neon perfomance against edg

#44
KyLZi
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100% correct. make the bag now and when he is finished with esports he can use the money he saved for a phd.

#50
south_america_best_region
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Bro this site is so dumb you guys are all stupid.
People are saying its a good decision if Zekken retires to pursue a college degree. Like wtf that would be the dumbest decision ever. Why tf bother going to college when you probably get like 50k a month with 19 years. No way youre retiring in the middle of your prime for a dumbass mediocre college degree. Zekken can literally retire already.

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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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Not really but if he keeps streaming, retaining sponsors and being signed he will easily be able to retire and live off of millions in investments by his mid twenties, whoever thinks a cOlLeGe bAcKuP plan is worth it for a top tier athlete is insane lol

#65
Botroretro
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Too much typing mr Qawlu qawlu sawarim

#67
Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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less typing more jelqing

#53
Pubber
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its his decision whether or not he wants to retire lmao get a life

#56
Levells
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He is one of the few players that can actually have longevity in this game. Top duelist that can play every duelist & great flex player at such a young age. He show constant improvement and has no sign of slowing down. He is also in an org with one of the biggest fanbase which make it easier to become a streamer. If he want to get a degree he can always do it in his late 20s or smth. Right now tho would be a waste of his career
Also he said he would retire after winning champ which makes no sense. When a player win champs they usually can demand a higher salary & their stream usually grow. Retiring after winning just kill the momentum of your career.

#66
KaiZen02
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Everyone just yapping, let him do what he wants! Whether to play, pursue degree, do both or do anything else is completely upto him.
Also is he getting paid 50k per month fr?

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Vesprit
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Easily yeah if you include streaming, sponsorships, prize money, salary

#73
Ausam
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50-100k if u count his salary and other incomes.

#70
PooFaceCe
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50k a month and "retire already" is definitely a stretch but in principle you're right

#78
Cu55Ku55_______
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esports is a bit unsustainable (especially val, any meta wpuld help or hurt everyone)

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