Addressing the "aspas is a baiter" allegations

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doomvor

TW: ALLAT

Also, i'll just put this at the top:

for a total of....

bait counter: 5

entry counter: 20

for aspas, so he is not a baiter :)

(This is with video evidence as proof)

(Y'all better upvote this please this took so long)

I'm looking at this game:

LEV vs G2(Upper Final, where G2 2-0 LEV)

This game was chose because aspas played well, but didn't have some kind of crazy FK:FD. They also lost, making it more likely it's his fault that they lost.

Methodology:

I'm looking at actual rounds, where both teams have an actual chance to win the round. (Not ecos, unless they win or get close to winning)

On each round, I will be watching to see if aspas goes first or not

Map One: Icebox

Round 1: aspas is last on the retake, fails clutch

bait counter: 1
entry counter: 0

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=37

Round 3: aspas starts B main at the beginning of the round, get's a pick

bait counter: 1

entry counter: 1

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=56

Round 4: LEV fight yellow, aspas leads charge

bait counter: 1

entry counter: 2

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=152

Round 5: aspas walks up belt, finds a pick then dies

could be argued as "troll", as you're pushing up solo vs an eco, but it doesn't mean he's a baiter, so another point of entry

bait counter: 1

entry counter: 3

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=173

Round 8: aspas just holds spawn with op, doesn't assist retake till later:

but he has op so i can't really fault him too much

I'll give him 0.5

bait counter: 1.5

entry counter: 3

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=254

Round 11: beginning of vid is cut out, but we see aspas is dead in a one for one

bait counter: 1.5

entry counter: 4

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=298

Round 12: aspas finds first pick on retake

bait counter: 1.5

entry counter: 5

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=365

Round 13: aspas just kinda sits in back site and does nothing but die

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 5

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=414

Round 14: aspas plays up close during post plant

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 6

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=455

Round 16: aspas kinda takes a foward angle, but then tries to run back and post plant and dies

i know he didn't do much, but he was up front and was told to play post plant which is why he left

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E7xKiW5xXY

Round 18: aspas is up front, first trying to fight with viper, then trying to find a pick, but gets pushed off by hunters fury

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 7

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=508

Round 19: aspas uses knives and takes entirety of site by himself, then later plays up front during post plant

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 8

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=555

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=597

Round 20: aspas takes foward angle during post plant and finds an opener

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 9

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=642

Round 21: aspas goes first, but just dies and doesn't get traded

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 10

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=728

# END OF MAP ONE

Current tally:

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 10

Map 2: Bind

Round 1: aspas tps with his team, but just kinda sits in tp and lets rest of his team die

tho he does get somewhat close to clutching it

bait counter: 1

entry counter: 0

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=770

Round 3: Aspas has op on top of truck, finds opening kill

bait counter: 1

entry counter: 1

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=847

note: aspas does kinda bait during post plant, but he has op so again i can't really fault him too much

i'll give him 0.5 again

bait counter: 1.5

entry counter: 1

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=880

round 4: aspas leads charge during retake, finds opening kill

bait counter: 1.5

entry counter: 2

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=936

round 5: aspas leads charge for CT side of retake, finds opening kill(for the CT side of retake)

bait counter: 1.5

entry counter: 3

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=965

Round 6: aspas is playing A, and kingg just kills them all before aspas can rotate

no point for either

bait counter: 1.5

entry counter: 3

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=996

Round 7: aspas has op once again, and you guessed it, aspas kinda baits his team

but 0.5 again

bait counter: 2

entry counter: 3

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=1032

round 9: aspas plays a for most of this, so not much happens, but he does try to find a timing and wins them the round

bait counter: 2

entry counter: 4

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=1115

Round 11: aspas plays foward position, but leaf gets the kill

bait counter: 2

entry counter: 5

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=1129

Round 12: guess what, aspas has op and kinda baits his team again

you know the drill by now

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 5

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=1201

Round 13: aspas leads charge, finds opening kill

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 6

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=1245

Round 15: aspas leads charge, but dies and doesn't get traded

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 7

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=1336

Roundd 16: exact same thing happens as round 15

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 8

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=1385

Round 18: aspas watches CT, but no one goes that way

later he does swing and get a kill on his own

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 9

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=1419

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=1439

Round 19: whoa, it happens again

aspas swings into u haul, dies, doesn't get traded or it's a negative trade

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 10

# END OF MAP TWO

woah he gets the same score line

bait counter: 2.5

entry counter: 10

for a total of....

bait counter: 5

entry counter: 20

take this however you want

(this took like an hour)

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doomvor

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i literally put a TW

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nobody___100

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allat + only retards think aspas is a baiter

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doomvor

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since people always debate stats and whatnot(which do also agree aspas isn't a baiter)

i looked at video evidence and gave proof

yes, aspas is not a baiter

now we can finally put this to rest for people like BulkyLettuce

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nah he’s still gonna keep going

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nobody___100

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b0lkyl0tt0ce is not a real person bro

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nihso

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if you think bulkylettuce is gonna change his ways makes you the weetard

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nihso

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King Yappervor

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?

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nihso

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King Yapperv0r

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catNmouse

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wake up guys we’re watching the grand final vs loud at champions 2022 and masters reykjavik 2022

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groomer

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Had to scroll 5 times to get to the chat box. Allat holy

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nihso

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you scrolled 5 times??? i had to use compress air to send my scroll wheel into super speed

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groomer

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😭😭😭

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DuD5K1S

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thank you for the TW, I was scared i was gonna have to read all of this

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Conceit

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Cool stats man :]

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catNmouse

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how are bait and entry counters rated?

#18

doomvor

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mostly based off what I saw him do per round

if he's going first, then he gets an entry counter(no matter what happens, so even if he dies alone)

if he just sits back site and/or does nothing, then he gets a bait counter

i gave my quick explanation on what I saw him do

but you can maybe debate some

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Average_NA_fan

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if aspas is a baiter then cned and demon1 are a fishing vessel

#22

akimb0_

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wtf why does this comment feel like dejavu

edit: nvm you posted the same phrase on another post LMAO

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nihso

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guy on drugs

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kanyefan4238173

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allat keke

edit: i read it (not watching all those links) and i think this post would be better if you did the same for a player like zekken who also is a full time duelist

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doomvor

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yeah you don't have to watch it, it's just giving time stamped proof so you can't deny what I said is true

ugh that would take so long, but is probably a good idea too

any other suggestions besides zekken? Or is zekken who you'd like to see?

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kanyefan4238173

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zekken just comes to mind as a top duelist who isnt called a baiter, could be someone else tho. i just think zekken would be good to compare

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doomvor

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I'll probably do it tomorrow

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kanyefan4238173

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vlr passion o7

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Average_NA_fan

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noone called aspas baiter b4 the old cope was "one trick jett" as they cant use it anymore and theres nothing to actually criticize they make things up

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kanyefan4238173

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i call aspas a baiter, hes still top 3 all time and the best player itw tho

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Average_NA_fan

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he's not top 3 he's top 1 he's the most complete player to ever touch the game

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KlRBY

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Bro wrote the declaration of independence

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kristof

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Regional merchant

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ShuraGam

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Top 3 in over half of all LANs he attended. Quite the regional merchant indeed.

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akimb0_

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bait account, don't interact

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kristof

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He had shit rating in every event he attended and was carried

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Hyssopus1

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you are either dishonest or an idiot, a lot of these rounds aspas was inside the bomb and he was the last alive just because it happens man, also a lot of OP rounds he is playing B solo and 4 of his teammates die A what do you want him to do? retake 1v4 with an OP?
This narrative is full of bullshit.

I Just read everything now and you are good king, i just don't agree with some rounds you said but you good.

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doomvor

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wdym "inside the bomb"?

the three times when aspas had op on retake:

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=881

3v3

https://youtu.be/5E7xKiW5xXY?t=1033

4v5 against a low buy

3v5(so I guess it's kinda fair for this one)

and there is a reason why I gave those rounds 0.5 of a baiter point and not a full one.