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I watched a lot of fnatic and I base my tierlist based on the player's international achievements. Chronicle and Hiro played very well in the emea league but during the last master Chronicle did not play very well (his level of play dropped compared to the level he had in the regular season) and Hiro, who is an excellent player, remains a new player arriving on the international scene. I think that currently F0rsaken to the champions is a safer bet being the one who often raised the level of play of PRX in these last difficult encounters
For a team who didnt pop off at international event and not dominate their league A tier is still very good. Like i cannot put the whole FNC roaster in S tier. And for the duellist part i feel like Sayf is better than Derke who is playing on a fonctionnal teamates with a roaster who prove when its just Sayf/Trexx (and sometimes Runner) against the world
I think its easier to stats when you play with derke alfajer and chronicle than crws jitboys and governor (no hates for Talon fan but the FNC system is much more in place than that of tln)
hiro gave fnatic a revival but I think even without him fnc would have gone to champions while primmie is the essential element of TLN
and btw fnc played against kc tl and vit who I think are not on the same level as prx or drx
why is hiro in B tier 💀 that man has single-handedly won them SO MANY clutches, and saved them in the KC game in playoffs oh sunset, the impact he brought cannot be overlooked
he allows alfajer to flex and get off cypher with comfort, chronicle can finally play sova after so long. hiro may have been their solution if you wanna look it that way. glaze aside he should definitely be higher than B tier he’s not just some mid tier player
Hiro is an excellent player, I can't deny that. To tell the truth, I really like him watching him from Wylde in the French league. However, I judge the player's level a lot in relation to his international achievements and playing against KC or TL is not the same as playing GEN or LEV. The only rookies without international experience that I put in front of him are Flashback and Primmie who I think are better than him (or who had more opportunity to prove DRX beat PRX and took a map at GEN while that primmie is primmie.
And tier b is not a bad tier in any case the players going to champions are not average. These are just the players who are a little below the top players in their roles or those who have not yet proven themselves internationally.
Hiro is an excellent player, I can't deny that. To tell the truth, I really like him watching him from Wylde in the French league. However, I judge the player's level a lot in relation to his international achievements and playing against KC or TL is not the same as playing GEN or LEV. The only rookies without international experience that I put in front of him are Flashback and Primmie who I think are better than him (or who had more opportunity to prove DRX beat PRX and took a map at GEN while that primmie is primmie.
And tier b is not a bad tier in any case the players going to champions are not average. These are just the players who are a little below the top players in their roles or those who have not yet proven themselves internationally.
Some people said that primmie deserved the s due to his reputation and his results but I don't think that the latter deserves it knowing that he has not proven anything internationally and that his only victory was against TS. However, Primmie manages to play really well in a team without much organization (surfing and governor role swap) while hiro, despite some changes, arrives in a very organized team. Obviously hiro is excellent and has given FNC a new lease of life but we are not doing a random ranking of emea we are talking about the champions and I think that Primmie has more to prove than Hiro for the moment. However, I would be very happy to be able to move up to hiro in the next tierlist if he maintains the impact he had in emea internationally
You're right about that but what makes me place primmie higher than hiro is that i think its easier to stats when you play with derke alfajer and chronicle than crws jitboys and governor (no hates for Talon fan but the FNC system is much more in place than that of tln)
and btw fnc played against kc tl and vit who I think are not on the same level as prx or drx
Hiro has been the better rookie if we're comparing him to Primmie. I really don't see the argument otherwise. Yeah the Talon system isn't as good as the FNATIC system so props to Primmie for being outstanding even with the 0-2 losses against DRX and PRX. But Hiro has been absolutely phenomenal in nearly every game he's played and has won FNC several maps through his insane clutches.