Zywoo will become the goat soon

where is eg ?

ahahhahahahahahhaha

bellow miniboo

tex increase his lvl higher and higher by the time he play with lev since shanghai and they even won split 2 when i feel fut are loosing speed

Personnaly i rate king higher than valyn he have better stats and won split 2. Valyn mby should be higher but i dont think that any of the tier a players belongs in s tiers atm

tell me what i do wrong pls im listening

you think he is better than king ?

not watching vct cn so cannot rate those guys properly

I think its easier to stats when you play with derke alfajer and chronicle than crws jitboys and governor (no hates for Talon fan but the FNC system is much more in place than that of tln)
hiro gave fnatic a revival but I think even without him fnc would have gone to champions while primmie is the essential element of TLN

and btw fnc played against kc tl and vit who I think are not on the same level as prx or drx

https://imgur.com/a/zHOg5Qp

is that better ?

I don't watch the cn vcts at all. Do you think that the cn teams excluding edg and fpx are at the level of the top emea apac and na teams. Rn with your advice I would put it between chronicle and mazino but it seems complicated to put it higher behind who would you put it?

You're right about that but what makes me place primmie higher than hiro is that i think its easier to stats when you play with derke alfajer and chronicle than crws jitboys and governor (no hates for Talon fan but the FNC system is much more in place than that of tln)
and btw fnc played against kc tl and vit who I think are not on the same level as prx or drx

For a team who didnt pop off at international event and not dominate their league A tier is still very good. Like i cannot put the whole FNC roaster in S tier. And for the duellist part i feel like Sayf is better than Derke who is playing on a fonctionnal teamates with a roaster who prove when its just Sayf/Trexx (and sometimes Runner) against the world

Some people said that primmie deserved the s due to his reputation and his results but I don't think that the latter deserves it knowing that he has not proven anything internationally and that his only victory was against TS. However, Primmie manages to play really well in a team without much organization (surfing and governor role swap) while hiro, despite some changes, arrives in a very organized team. Obviously hiro is excellent and has given FNC a new lease of life but we are not doing a random ranking of emea we are talking about the champions and I think that Primmie has more to prove than Hiro for the moment. However, I would be very happy to be able to move up to hiro in the next tierlist if he maintains the impact he had in emea internationally

Hiro is an excellent player, I can't deny that. To tell the truth, I really like him watching him from Wylde in the French league. However, I judge the player's level a lot in relation to his international achievements and playing against KC or TL is not the same as playing GEN or LEV. The only rookies without international experience that I put in front of him are Flashback and Primmie who I think are better than him (or who had more opportunity to prove DRX beat PRX and took a map at GEN while that primmie is primmie.

And tier b is not a bad tier in any case the players going to champions are not average. These are just the players who are a little below the top players in their roles or those who have not yet proven themselves internationally.

where would u put him then ?

feel like runner is one of the worst sentinel of the tournament while kicks is just average at is role can u tell me why i should have rank runner higher or kicks lower ?

Ye i should have put him behind cned sorry

He is in B tier bro and i don't think he deserves to be alongside leaf, tex, benjy and flashback in a tier

It's true that Leo and Hiro are very comparable. I had forgotten Leo's famous cypher

Hiro is an excellent player, I can't deny that. To tell the truth, I really like him watching him from Wylde in the French league. However, I judge the player's level a lot in relation to his international achievements and playing against KC or TL is not the same as playing GEN or LEV. The only rookies without international experience that I put in front of him are Flashback and Primmie who I think are better than him (or who had more opportunity to prove DRX beat PRX and took a map at GEN while that primmie is primmie.

And tier b is not a bad tier in any case the players going to champions are not average. These are just the players who are a little below the top players in their roles or those who have not yet proven themselves internationally.

Trent play scan initiator (sova/fade) and gekko
While JonahP play Kayo, Skye Breach who are i think support initiator.
For scan initiator i think Leo/Trexx are better than Trent but for support initiator i think JonahP is the best

I watched a lot of fnatic and I base my tierlist based on the player's international achievements. Chronicle and Hiro played very well in the emea league but during the last master Chronicle did not play very well (his level of play dropped compared to the level he had in the regular season) and Hiro, who is an excellent player, remains a new player arriving on the international scene. I think that currently F0rsaken to the champions is a safer bet being the one who often raised the level of play of PRX in these last difficult encounters

I think he is the best initiator world rn with insane support stuff and good firepower if G2 manage to be that good to setup a new duellist player who dont frag like a star its due to the initiator abilities work so i rate him S

sorry didnt watch a lot of vct cn and dont wanna judge them when idk about how they are doing

i feel like sayf play only with trexx when derke have a whole team behind him

toughts
https://imgur.com/a/5f0wx9F

TL Nivera TL ScreaM TL Jamppi
PRX f0rsaken PRX jinggg PRX something

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