if your an ORG

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kalayav_n

americas has the best talent but you have to really decide, full brazilian or full english...
APAC no worries about the language as most can speak more than 1 language but the talent is stale....
EMEA also really good talent but best coaches/some players aren't willing to move to europe yk...

big dilemma dilemma dilemmer

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cloudberry

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Americas orgs should just force their players to speak in rapid fire Spanish /j

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Icl NA got insane talent depth alone. I'm making a full English NA roster.

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kalayav_n

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hell no, no good IGL's, you'd rather have a brazilian super duelist than a stale mid ass american team.

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team with brazilian super duelist lost to FUT so

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kalayav_n

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im talking about brazilian duelists like dgzin, aspas and others. this has nothing to do with lev...?

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chrlxz

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dgzin is giga toxic apparently

that aside i would rather have a 'mid ass american team' like 2024 EG because they actually looked greater than the sum of their parts

last years furia were so mid even with dgzin carry

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kalayav_n

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look at how bad EG are lol, i mean its like very hard to find actual good players. best bet is to mix regions but problem is language barrier

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chrlxz

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in what world were EG bad this year they literally were 1 game from playoffs

first 3 games they had to adjust to new team and new tier 1 environment and after that they looked insane until 100t loss

please watch games instead of just looking at results

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yeah, for a team with no existing core and being considered "bad" NA players, they played very well

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StutterSt3p

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Wdym no good igls? Look at both the top two ascension igls year: johnqt - masters winner, valyn - placed top 3 in a masters.

Flyuh, stellar, mitch, and zander are all good igls.

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chrlxz

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nature much better than expected this year too

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I lowkey forgot about nature, but yeah he's underrated too.

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kalayav_n

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johnqt is a great american, also valyns 1st year in vct right?

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not his first year, he was the best for a short period of time before they bombed out of reykjavik 2022. forced to play in tier 2 because guard didnt make franchising

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kalayav_n

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hence proving my damn point... your giving me examples of proven players. theres no great upcoming IGL's in america rn

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chrlxz

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zander started igling after nitr0 left and he looks good.......

monSi's blinn have looked great too

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kalayav_n

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does he frag? in the meta rn fragging IGL's are more valuable

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chrlxz

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yes zander frags hes the best player in tier 2 same as he was last year???? monSi is decent too

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kalayav_n

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interesting, ive just started digging my self into t2

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11 had named multiple

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mitch, zander, net, stellar, flyuh, POISED/gMd(not sure who is igling for TSM but they look solid), and hell even paincakes is making good calls. Most of the IGLs in T2 could be in T1 right now tbh so idk what you're on about

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chrlxz

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valyn was at masters 2021

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kalayav_n

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i know my post was sarcastic

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StutterSt3p

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It doesn't matter where johnqt is from he's a product of NA t2, and Valyn has played the majority of his time in NA t2 as well, or at least against a lot of players currently in NA t2.

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kalayav_n

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up and coming IGL's, i agree johnqt is very good and can frag, but thats it. nature is mid asf and can barely frag for his life.

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StutterSt3p

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I know they aren't up and coming anymore. I just used them as an example to show NA t2 can produce good igls.

Nature can actually frag though, especially towards the beginning of the year, he was the only one fragging for EG. He's not an insane igl by any means but he's better than most igls SA has produced.

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kalayav_n

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not better than king lol, idk i dont watch latam t2 but as far as kru's IGL keznit or king hes not even close.

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StutterSt3p

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Congrats bro you can't read because I said most, not all.

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kalayav_n

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those are the only 2 latam IGL's in americas???

continue thread →

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lets compare a team like mibr to a team like g2 its clear you would choose english speakers over brazillians. brazillian talent is fucked by franchising whilst na talent is thriving because of it

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you can't compare mibr to g2.. LOL WTF, G2 core has been around alot. Its like comparing MIBR/FURIA to EG/the next new ascension team...

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EG finished above both mibr and furia and looked 10x better? curious

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ntro

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yes you can, mibr have had brazillian region upbringing and g2 have spent time praccing with vct americas last year, there is a clear difference because the quality of practice is better in NA than in brazil because of vct being in NA. its unfortunate but brazillian talent is really in the bin.

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ButterflyEffect23

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If I'm a Pacific org I'm building a Korean roster, the amount of talent is insane here

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StutterSt3p

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Honestly valid, KR has a lot of talent depth.

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NA talent is far clear of everything else, it’s an easy choice