Most overrated Val player?

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ButterflyEffect23

Who is it and why?
share your opinion

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AstroGalaxy

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cyro

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he kinda disappointed me during Shanghai ngl, I expected more

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same

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doc_octavius

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nobody talks about him other than 100t fans and the biased analyst desk at VCT Americas stage

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aspas is the most overrated player of all time

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catNmouse

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cryo and asuna exists. aspas atleast won champs 2022 and vct americas league

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difference is no one is calling asuna or cryo the goat so no they arent overrated when compared to how overrated aspas is

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who is the goat then?

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valkin

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jawgemo

seriously tho there are no goats yet

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Aspas would 1 vs x your whole family

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Aspas wouldn't do that, he'd rather train and play valorant

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Kirya

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trashies or shitcor

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farties and poopcor you damn right. ALL agents of FNS and ch0t

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EzWinz

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Dont diss FINESSE your org is unknown lil boy FNS is the entire chinese league

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bilibili👻🇨🇳

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your org is unknown lil boy

DRG was at an international this year 0n0rgy on the other hand

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ctabust

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not an nrg fan but to be fair at least this roster won a lan

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jokes aside i honestly think Asuna

mid on all agents

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nuh uh

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ButterflyEffect23

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he's been trending upwards lately i think

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doc_octavius

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yea the bad format by riot really made them look good, also blud gained some high confidence after few wins it seemed

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KyLZi

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I think people hype navi way more than asuna and asuna made top 4 at a lan this year

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chrlxz

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nobody hypes navi we are shit

asuna was comfortably worst player on that 100T shanghai run, but cryo was also pretty bad in the big games

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KyLZi

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"nobody hypes navi" really? you know that's not true. just because they are ass now doesn't mean people didn't overrate them before. same with asuna, however, people stopped overrating asuna long ago. where as navi, it was two weeks ago. the only person I see glazing him these days is sgares.

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They were perfectly rated as trophy contenders in thr past

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navi 2nd best team in eu!

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drain_angel

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negative ball knowledge

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dort

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zekken for sure

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AstroGalaxy

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lol why we lying just give an actual player

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doc_octavius

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really could have said anyone on SEN except him lmao tf.... is this a bait???

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Val_cs

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Don't mention them. Donkeytinel fans will come at you.

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Themcpepper

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Average nrg fan with a log up their ass

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Just one baiter making everyone else look bad

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mindfreak

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doc_octavius

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nah dude is really good clutch player and only player in PRX who has discipline

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what discipline? watching him at shanghai made me want to rip my hair out, he has 0 patience and threw so many rounds

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Average 100 Content fan:

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ButterflyEffect23

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he was a beast in 2023 tho

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PoonRaccoon

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he carried nrg last year while fartiis farted and sharted everywhere

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chrlxz

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ardiis agent pool:
jett
raze
sova
kayo
chamber
breach

fns put him on:
sage
killjoy
jett

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Al-Mawsil

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raze? Bro was killing himself on raze and did so bad they had to move victor on it. But yeah nrg mismanaged ardiss so bad, like demon1. Fucking chet man

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chrlxz

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vic always played raze anyway

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ardiis was terrible on anything that wasnt chamber or jett, idk what ure smoking

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Booster

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TenZ

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KingJark

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tenz hate in 2024 is not funny bruh

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Lekatakurikomane

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its funny when it elaborated

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yea

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johnqt

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ButterflyEffect23

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he alright

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doc_octavius

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tf u on?????

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Ha4dy

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bruh won the first tournament he played xD

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ArtemisZ083

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There are no overrated players, everyone has their peaks and their lows

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doc_octavius

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and then there was boaster

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Aspas?

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ArtemisZ083

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Aspas is overrated?

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flames-leleo

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I was referring to the "everyone has their peaks and their lows"

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fut

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https://www.vlr.gg/348461/fut-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r3

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https://www.vlr.gg/183815/nrg-esports-vs-loud-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w7/?game=all&tab=overview

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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Blud has negative infinity ball knowledge

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DeluluGavin

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there are players that tend to get rated highly compared to their achievements/plays. its not a BAD BAD thing to be overrated. Last time a lot of NA players were rated really highly because they had more coverage back in like 2020/2021 while some APAC players were less appreciated.

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ArtemisZ083

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Then the APAC players were underrated , not that NA ones were overrated. Overrated means getting more recognition/reward than one deserves.

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DeluluGavin

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nah, some were really rated highly. like you said, getting more recognition than one deserves. if some players are underrated, then there are players who are overrated. its not a bad thing, but a normal occurrence in every sports/esports scene and it just varies by people's opinion.
i personally thought Izu was rated too highly coming straight from jp challengers, and he was underwhelming at first but not anymore, he is as cracked as people rated him to be. its normal thing, happens so much in football or any sports too

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Themcpepper

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Honestly fair tho

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FNS, blud thought he was gonna save NRG 😂😂😂

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doc_octavius

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yea, blud was acting like a megamind on his watchparties. But blud really can't keep up with the level of the game at this point

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alpine007

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bro if you actually pay attention you would see that he actually out read all the teams he has played against till now. The fact that his shit tem cant shoot back even after the opponents being read like a book is the reason why NRG is failing so badly

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Serath

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All of 100Fraud players

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doc_octavius

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that terrible format by riot really made them look good

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333triplethreat

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Then prx must be super bad no? Same with fut and both of them r top1-2 teams in their region.

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doc_octavius

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they are terrible when it comes to discipline and playing in a advantage posititon

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333triplethreat

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Keep yapping bro, thats not even related to the topic

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doc_octavius

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ok 333triplethreat with 1790 posts

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No

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OranP

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Something

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ButterflyEffect23

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idk about that one

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naurr

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canopuszz

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actually underrated as hell

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??????

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shittiest take. something is the x factor, literally the reason they win with his explosiveness on sight, plays a major role in distracting the team and can clutch.

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OranP

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"The reason they win" When something wasn't playing, they were still making just as far in tournaments. The "x factor" has not made them win anything.

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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At least they are consistent unlike NA teams

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smartest American

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doc_octavius

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i guess that's Derke. his bitchass always get carried by chronice and alfa. also boaster does pretty much decent calling to set him up. But as a playmaker he is just hot garbage. He is the reason FNC had a terrible year in 2024 and had to give duelist role to alfa to save his bitchass again.
Not to mention also one of the reason my goat Leo had to sit on bench.

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ButterflyEffect23

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how is he related to benching Leo tho

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doc_octavius

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i think that apart from Leo being sick, there was role issues with derke not performing on duelist roles

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laeDLaer

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there was role issues with derke not performing on duelist roles

current best duelist in EU https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2094/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2

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Agreed but chronicle didn’t carry him it was Leo and Alfa not chronicle he didn’t do shit in lock in or Tokyo.

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derke clears whole of CN, dont disrespect my bald goat like that

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snowdivine

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youre a retard

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doc_octavius

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This is VLR sir

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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So you're saying Leo was benched because of Derke? Tf?

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n1cf

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most of na

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KyLZi

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most of emea

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Atpdel

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most of apac

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he ain't even overrated, he just a clown

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ButterflyEffect23

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isn't he mostly getting clowned on?

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is he? all i know is that johnqt saved sen

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bang

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nah he good, and no one even talks about bang, how is he overrated????????????

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i think nobody ever talks about Bang

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Rb

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ButterflyEffect23

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Molly yourself

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Ha4dy

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yo.. im stealing that line

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Please get your brain checked for damage, how can the best player to ever live be overrated?

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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Smartest SEN fan:

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all of china

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nobody__100?? are you ok????

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Bro hit his head on a metal pipe

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100Thieves

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obviously Florescent

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👀👀

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he mid, he looks good because he's on PRX, put him on another team that team probally gonna be ass

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No wonder why TS and OSC are shit

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Xeppaa
Should’ve been kicked since last year

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2023-24 FNS

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jinggg, monyet was better

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Shitty bait

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with monyet u got 3rd in madrid with jinggg you got 5-6th

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Madrid - 8 teams
Shanghai - 12 teams

I'd tell you to use your brain but that seems to be difficult for most SEN fans.

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calm down neckbeard dont it’s not my fault your player is shit and caused your team to underperform. he should’ve went to war LMAO

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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Get ready to lose to G2 buddy

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Sen fans, they were born without a brain.

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derke, chronicle, tenz, boostio :)
and ofc all sentinels players (maybe except johnqt)

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f0rsaken, fns, aspas a bit

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fns and f0rsaken totally but not aspas he has had like 3 bad maps in the past 2 years

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n*b0dy

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I have a few that are all tied. ZMJJKK, Chronicle 2022-2024, cNed, asuna, C0M. Kang Kang gets so overhyped it’s crazy he had 1 good tournament and it ended with a 6th place finish. Chronicle was good in 2021 and since then he has consistently been one of the worst players on his teams up until the past month. cNed had 1 good tournament in 2021 and people still glaze him for it when he hasn’t accomplished anything since. Asuna and C0M even though they are hated so much already for how shit they are, it should be 100x worse to show how bad they really are.

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eww yap

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yeah u defo wasnt there back in 2021

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Kangkang did play very good in 2023, and I don’t think it was wrong to hype him up then especially considering how he lifted a historically mid team into the international spotlight. Sure, that same amount of hype may not be applicable now but his skill has always been there. Even now he still performs but his teams run of bad form nowadays really drag his name down.

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You're bringing bad luck and negative aura to LEV. Change ur flair

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kangkang tbh

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yay

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boaster

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Kangkang, Tenz, Asuna, Cryo, foxy9, flashback, sScary, Jemkin, Governor, and every JP pro-players except Dep, Sugarzero, and meiy.

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SR florecent

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Crashies is kinda ass. He's just a mid as fuck Initiator, at least Victor is good at making space for his team while crahies is just ass when compared to the field. He lacks the versatility that's needed by Initiator players too. With the NA teams, is Crashies better than any of them? The closest is Nature who is also the IGL, and is more versitile.

Coming next year, how do you explain this guy on a tier 1 roster over Verno or Rossy. You just can't.

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Crashies just fell off ngl

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+++Post 2022 Optic

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SKRossi.. i remember his debue..those casters were comparing his oping skills with tenz, yay, aspas and man he kept on disappointing.