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chrlxz [#4]jokes aside i honestly think Asuna
mid on all agents
he's been trending upwards lately i think
i guess that's Derke. his bitchass always get carried by chronice and alfa. also boaster does pretty much decent calling to set him up. But as a playmaker he is just hot garbage. He is the reason FNC had a terrible year in 2024 and had to give duelist role to alfa to save his bitchass again.
Not to mention also one of the reason my goat Leo had to sit on bench.
acels [#15]FNS, blud thought he was gonna save NRG 😂😂😂
yea, blud was acting like a megamind on his watchparties. But blud really can't keep up with the level of the game at this point
ArtemisZ083 [#14]There are no overrated players, everyone has their peaks and their lows
and then there was boaster
doc_octavius [#22]i guess that's Derke. his bitchass always get carried by chronice and alfa. also boaster does pretty much decent calling to set him up. But as a playmaker he is just hot garbage. He is the reason FNC had a terrible year in 2024 and had to give duelist role to alfa to save his bitchass again.
Not to mention also one of the reason my goat Leo had to sit on bench.
how is he related to benching Leo tho
heavensentsaint [#9]mindfreak
nah dude is really good clutch player and only player in PRX who has discipline
dort [#7]zekken for sure
really could have said anyone on SEN except him lmao tf.... is this a bait???
chrlxz [#4]jokes aside i honestly think Asuna
mid on all agents
yea the bad format by riot really made them look good, also blud gained some high confidence after few wins it seemed
AstroGalaxy [#2]cyro
nobody talks about him other than 100t fans and the biased analyst desk at VCT Americas stage
ButterflyEffect23 [#42]isn't he mostly getting clowned on?
is he? all i know is that johnqt saved sen
ButterflyEffect23 [#30]how is he related to benching Leo tho
i think that apart from Leo being sick, there was role issues with derke not performing on duelist roles
localkoolkid [#46]bang
nah he good, and no one even talks about bang, how is he overrated????????????
Pengu12 [#48]Rb
Please get your brain checked for damage, how can the best player to ever live be overrated?
chrlxz [#4]jokes aside i honestly think Asuna
mid on all agents
I think people hype navi way more than asuna and asuna made top 4 at a lan this year
doc_octavius [#25]that terrible format by riot really made them look good
Then prx must be super bad no? Same with fut and both of them r top1-2 teams in their region.
333triplethreat [#56]Then prx must be super bad no? Same with fut and both of them r top1-2 teams in their region.
they are terrible when it comes to discipline and playing in a advantage posititon
doc_octavius [#57]they are terrible when it comes to discipline and playing in a advantage posititon
Keep yapping bro, thats not even related to the topic
KyLZi [#53]I think people hype navi way more than asuna and asuna made top 4 at a lan this year
nobody hypes navi we are shit
asuna was comfortably worst player on that 100T shanghai run, but cryo was also pretty bad in the big games
OranP [#20]Something
shittiest take. something is the x factor, literally the reason they win with his explosiveness on sight, plays a major role in distracting the team and can clutch.
333triplethreat [#58]Keep yapping bro, thats not even related to the topic
ok 333triplethreat with 1790 posts
ArtemisZ083 [#54]Aspas is overrated?
I was referring to the "everyone has their peaks and their lows"
chrlxz [#59]nobody hypes navi we are shit
asuna was comfortably worst player on that 100T shanghai run, but cryo was also pretty bad in the big games
"nobody hypes navi" really? you know that's not true. just because they are ass now doesn't mean people didn't overrate them before. same with asuna, however, people stopped overrating asuna long ago. where as navi, it was two weeks ago. the only person I see glazing him these days is sgares.
flames-leleo [#62]I was referring to the "everyone has their peaks and their lows"
https://www.vlr.gg/348461/fut-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r3
ArtemisZ083 [#14]There are no overrated players, everyone has their peaks and their lows
there are players that tend to get rated highly compared to their achievements/plays. its not a BAD BAD thing to be overrated. Last time a lot of NA players were rated really highly because they had more coverage back in like 2020/2021 while some APAC players were less appreciated.
DeluluGavin [#67]there are players that tend to get rated highly compared to their achievements/plays. its not a BAD BAD thing to be overrated. Last time a lot of NA players were rated really highly because they had more coverage back in like 2020/2021 while some APAC players were less appreciated.
Then the APAC players were underrated , not that NA ones were overrated. Overrated means getting more recognition/reward than one deserves.
ArtemisZ083 [#68]Then the APAC players were underrated , not that NA ones were overrated. Overrated means getting more recognition/reward than one deserves.
nah, some were really rated highly. like you said, getting more recognition than one deserves. if some players are underrated, then there are players who are overrated. its not a bad thing, but a normal occurrence in every sports/esports scene and it just varies by people's opinion.
i personally thought Izu was rated too highly coming straight from jp challengers, and he was underwhelming at first but not anymore, he is as cracked as people rated him to be. its normal thing, happens so much in football or any sports too
olgmeister [#60]shittiest take. something is the x factor, literally the reason they win with his explosiveness on sight, plays a major role in distracting the team and can clutch.
"The reason they win" When something wasn't playing, they were still making just as far in tournaments. The "x factor" has not made them win anything.
doc_octavius [#39]farties and poopcor you damn right. ALL agents of FNS and ch0t
Dont diss FINESSE your org is unknown lil boy FNS is the entire chinese league
acels [#15]FNS, blud thought he was gonna save NRG 😂😂😂
bro if you actually pay attention you would see that he actually out read all the teams he has played against till now. The fact that his shit tem cant shoot back even after the opponents being read like a book is the reason why NRG is failing so badly
KyLZi [#63]"nobody hypes navi" really? you know that's not true. just because they are ass now doesn't mean people didn't overrate them before. same with asuna, however, people stopped overrating asuna long ago. where as navi, it was two weeks ago. the only person I see glazing him these days is sgares.
They were perfectly rated as trophy contenders in thr past
Themcpepper [#78]Average nrg fan with a log up their ass
Just one baiter making everyone else look bad
EzWinz [#75]Dont diss FINESSE your org is unknown lil boy FNS is the entire chinese league
bilibili👻🇨🇳
laifu [#87]mindfreak
he mid, he looks good because he's on PRX, put him on another team that team probally gonna be ass
ArtemisZ083 [#14]There are no overrated players, everyone has their peaks and their lows
Honestly fair tho
BulkyLettuce [#76]aspas is the most overrated player of all time
cryo and asuna exists. aspas atleast won champs 2022 and vct americas league
catNmouse [#92]cryo and asuna exists. aspas atleast won champs 2022 and vct americas league
difference is no one is calling asuna or cryo the goat so no they arent overrated when compared to how overrated aspas is
BulkyLettuce [#94]difference is no one is calling asuna or cryo the goat so no they arent overrated when compared to how overrated aspas is
who is the goat then?
chrlxz [#59]nobody hypes navi we are shit
asuna was comfortably worst player on that 100T shanghai run, but cryo was also pretty bad in the big games
navi 2nd best team in eu!
doc_octavius [#44]i think that apart from Leo being sick, there was role issues with derke not performing on duelist roles
there was role issues with derke not performing on duelist roles
current best duelist in EU https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2094/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2
PoonRaccoon [#84]he carried nrg last year while fartiis farted and sharted everywhere
ardiis agent pool:
jett
raze
sova
kayo
chamber
breach
fns put him on:
sage
killjoy
jett
doc_octavius [#35]really could have said anyone on SEN except him lmao tf.... is this a bait???
Don't mention them. Donkeytinel fans will come at you.
333triplethreat [#56]Then prx must be super bad no? Same with fut and both of them r top1-2 teams in their region.
No
chrlxz [#102]ardiis agent pool:
jett
raze
sova
kayo
chamber
breachfns put him on:
sage
killjoy
jett
raze? Bro was killing himself on raze and did so bad they had to move victor on it. But yeah nrg mismanaged ardiss so bad, like demon1. Fucking chet man
chrlxz [#102]ardiis agent pool:
jett
raze
sova
kayo
chamber
breachfns put him on:
sage
killjoy
jett
ardiis was terrible on anything that wasnt chamber or jett, idk what ure smoking
strawwwwws [#107]with monyet u got 3rd in madrid with jinggg you got 5-6th
Madrid - 8 teams
Shanghai - 12 teams
I'd tell you to use your brain but that seems to be difficult for most SEN fans.
Al-Mawsil [#105]raze? Bro was killing himself on raze and did so bad they had to move victor on it. But yeah nrg mismanaged ardiss so bad, like demon1. Fucking chet man
vic always played raze anyway
doc_octavius [#22]i guess that's Derke. his bitchass always get carried by chronice and alfa. also boaster does pretty much decent calling to set him up. But as a playmaker he is just hot garbage. He is the reason FNC had a terrible year in 2024 and had to give duelist role to alfa to save his bitchass again.
Not to mention also one of the reason my goat Leo had to sit on bench.
Agreed but chronicle didn’t carry him it was Leo and Alfa not chronicle he didn’t do shit in lock in or Tokyo.
I have a few that are all tied. ZMJJKK, Chronicle 2022-2024, cNed, asuna, C0M. Kang Kang gets so overhyped it’s crazy he had 1 good tournament and it ended with a 6th place finish. Chronicle was good in 2021 and since then he has consistently been one of the worst players on his teams up until the past month. cNed had 1 good tournament in 2021 and people still glaze him for it when he hasn’t accomplished anything since. Asuna and C0M even though they are hated so much already for how shit they are, it should be 100x worse to show how bad they really are.
EMEAstan [#112]f0rsaken, fns, aspas a bit
fns and f0rsaken totally but not aspas he has had like 3 bad maps in the past 2 years
meadows [#110]Madrid - 8 teams
Shanghai - 12 teamsI'd tell you to use your brain but that seems to be difficult for most SEN fans.
calm down neckbeard dont it’s not my fault your player is shit and caused your team to underperform. he should’ve went to war LMAO
SomeoneLikeU [#115]I have a few that are all tied. ZMJJKK, Chronicle 2022-2024, cNed, asuna, C0M. Kang Kang gets so overhyped it’s crazy he had 1 good tournament and it ended with a 6th place finish. Chronicle was good in 2021 and since then he has consistently been one of the worst players on his teams up until the past month. cNed had 1 good tournament in 2021 and people still glaze him for it when he hasn’t accomplished anything since. Asuna and C0M even though they are hated so much already for how shit they are, it should be 100x worse to show how bad they really are.
eww yap
EzWinz [#75]Dont diss FINESSE your org is unknown lil boy FNS is the entire chinese league
your org is unknown lil boy
DRG was at an international this year 0n0rgy on the other hand
doc_octavius [#33]nah dude is really good clutch player and only player in PRX who has discipline
what discipline? watching him at shanghai made me want to rip my hair out, he has 0 patience and threw so many rounds
SomeoneLikeU [#115]I have a few that are all tied. ZMJJKK, Chronicle 2022-2024, cNed, asuna, C0M. Kang Kang gets so overhyped it’s crazy he had 1 good tournament and it ended with a 6th place finish. Chronicle was good in 2021 and since then he has consistently been one of the worst players on his teams up until the past month. cNed had 1 good tournament in 2021 and people still glaze him for it when he hasn’t accomplished anything since. Asuna and C0M even though they are hated so much already for how shit they are, it should be 100x worse to show how bad they really are.
yeah u defo wasnt there back in 2021
doc_octavius [#22]i guess that's Derke. his bitchass always get carried by chronice and alfa. also boaster does pretty much decent calling to set him up. But as a playmaker he is just hot garbage. He is the reason FNC had a terrible year in 2024 and had to give duelist role to alfa to save his bitchass again.
Not to mention also one of the reason my goat Leo had to sit on bench.
derke clears whole of CN, dont disrespect my bald goat like that
doc_octavius [#22]i guess that's Derke. his bitchass always get carried by chronice and alfa. also boaster does pretty much decent calling to set him up. But as a playmaker he is just hot garbage. He is the reason FNC had a terrible year in 2024 and had to give duelist role to alfa to save his bitchass again.
Not to mention also one of the reason my goat Leo had to sit on bench.
youre a retard
SomeoneLikeU [#115]I have a few that are all tied. ZMJJKK, Chronicle 2022-2024, cNed, asuna, C0M. Kang Kang gets so overhyped it’s crazy he had 1 good tournament and it ended with a 6th place finish. Chronicle was good in 2021 and since then he has consistently been one of the worst players on his teams up until the past month. cNed had 1 good tournament in 2021 and people still glaze him for it when he hasn’t accomplished anything since. Asuna and C0M even though they are hated so much already for how shit they are, it should be 100x worse to show how bad they really are.
Kangkang did play very good in 2023, and I don’t think it was wrong to hype him up then especially considering how he lifted a historically mid team into the international spotlight. Sure, that same amount of hype may not be applicable now but his skill has always been there. Even now he still performs but his teams run of bad form nowadays really drag his name down.
strawwwwws [#119]calm down neckbeard dont it’s not my fault your player is shit and caused your team to underperform. he should’ve went to war LMAO
Get ready to lose to G2 buddy
meadows [#110]Madrid - 8 teams
Shanghai - 12 teamsI'd tell you to use your brain but that seems to be difficult for most SEN fans.
Sen fans, they were born without a brain.
K4ziuHa [#123]your org is unknown lil boy
DRG was at an international this year 0n0rgy on the other hand
not an nrg fan but to be fair at least this roster won a lan
Crashies is kinda ass. He's just a mid as fuck Initiator, at least Victor is good at making space for his team while crahies is just ass when compared to the field. He lacks the versatility that's needed by Initiator players too. With the NA teams, is Crashies better than any of them? The closest is Nature who is also the IGL, and is more versitile.
Coming next year, how do you explain this guy on a tier 1 roster over Verno or Rossy. You just can't.
FlaymeFenix [#124]what discipline? watching him at shanghai made me want to rip my hair out, he has 0 patience and threw so many rounds
Average 100 Content fan:
OranP [#70]"The reason they win" When something wasn't playing, they were still making just as far in tournaments. The "x factor" has not made them win anything.
At least they are consistent unlike NA teams
Wronghand [#139]Crashies is kinda ass. He's just a mid as fuck Initiator, at least Victor is good at making space for his team while crahies is just ass when compared to the field. He lacks the versatility that's needed by Initiator players too. With the NA teams, is Crashies better than any of them? The closest is Nature who is also the IGL, and is more versitile.
Coming next year, how do you explain this guy on a tier 1 roster over Verno or Rossy. You just can't.
Crashies just fell off ngl
doc_octavius [#22]i guess that's Derke. his bitchass always get carried by chronice and alfa. also boaster does pretty much decent calling to set him up. But as a playmaker he is just hot garbage. He is the reason FNC had a terrible year in 2024 and had to give duelist role to alfa to save his bitchass again.
Not to mention also one of the reason my goat Leo had to sit on bench.
So you're saying Leo was benched because of Derke? Tf?
SomeoneLikeU [#115]I have a few that are all tied. ZMJJKK, Chronicle 2022-2024, cNed, asuna, C0M. Kang Kang gets so overhyped it’s crazy he had 1 good tournament and it ended with a 6th place finish. Chronicle was good in 2021 and since then he has consistently been one of the worst players on his teams up until the past month. cNed had 1 good tournament in 2021 and people still glaze him for it when he hasn’t accomplished anything since. Asuna and C0M even though they are hated so much already for how shit they are, it should be 100x worse to show how bad they really are.
You're bringing bad luck and negative aura to LEV. Change ur flair
lemondou [#130]Aspas would 1 vs x your whole family
Aspas wouldn't do that, he'd rather train and play valorant
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