apparently wo0t/t3xture > aspas?

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peaced

recency bias is once again the wave controlling the opinions of sheep. aspas replacing those two duelist is an undisputed upgrade as he’s not only shown to have the best duelist performance this year (Americas Split 1), but he also has the longevity to be in the best itw discussion for two years straight.

aspas is the best duelist in the world and has only lost that title since winning Champs 2022 thanks to Demon1 after facing EG directly in both Tokyo and Champs.

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get him past cryo lol

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jawgemo clears these frauds

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I’m still praying that Jawgemo joins the G2 roster so that they win every LAN next year.

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Icy is fine. He getting better.

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he stunned himself on neon. I do that in my gold lobbies so Me= Icy

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Jawgemo is still better than icy imo. Perfect fit for G2

I also see Potter actually going to G2 next year

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everytime someone has a good game, they're the best player itw according to vlr users

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it’s actually sad, why do they keep flip flopping that title like it means nothing?

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Ironic because y'all were the ones that called aspas the goat because he dropped 48 vs sen despite having 0 top 1 international lan performance in his career and being never considered as the undisputed best itw in his career bar last month

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do you have memory loss?

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ZekaTheGoat

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I mean what did i say wrong? Actually try to counter argue instead of just being a condescending prick like every aspas dick eaters

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oh shit im tweaking out i thought you meant that he had 0 top 1 international lan trophies like as a team

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Aspas has some international success:

won champs 2022 w LOUD
2nd at lock/in 2022 w LOUD
3rd champs 2023 w LOUD

not much in this year, but there's a lot to work on with 2024 LEV

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+2nd at masters reykjavík 2022

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ty how could I forget el classico

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Too early to say about Woot but T3xture this year has been the better player than Aspas.

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t3xture is definitely the closest of the two to be compared to aspas, I still think it’s a reach though since zekken overshadowed him heavily in Madrid

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Denjisideals

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I think T3xture has gotten better since then no? Kept the consistency, won Shanghai too. This is his year I feel like. Aspas is my guy, my GOAT but I have to give props where it is due, man and T3xture deserves his flowers.

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not every player who did great in a tourney deserves to have their flowers of being the best in the world for their role, a title like that isn’t just some quick praise. Zekken got the same treatment after Madrid and now so is t3xture, to be the best is to perform on another level against your opponents consistently. We’re throwing that title around like it’s hot potato and it honestly means nothing now.

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He has been great the entire year though not just this tournament

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peaced

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And so has aspas, which is why I’m saying we should stop dethroning that title from players unless it’s undisputable. aspas has been a juggernaut for a very overrated team

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But best in the world is all about current form though. And calling Texture, the best player on the best team in the world is not really delusional. Atleast not now.
It's an instantaneous term.

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that’s not how it works at allllll lmao the best in the world title is an INDIVIDUAL achievement, it has nothing to do with how well your team functions apart from yourself. Replace t3xture with aspas and they’ll have a more consistent duelist with higher peaks, you’re lowballing aspas because of who he has to play with.

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ZekaTheGoat

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Do you realize how stupid you sound? Let me remind you that you're talking about the BEST PLAYER of the BEST TEAM itw right now.

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I agree that t3xture has had the better year but for this season I have them on the same tier

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That's fair. You do you, man.

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hell no. t3xture has a way better team. Aspas diffs t3xtures

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i mean he topfragged against t3xture and diffed him so hard in his game against gen g, its not like If he downgraded in gameplay but his team is bad as hell c0m is a cone and the rest of the team its not consistent enough

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both wo0t and texture have had better 2024's than aspas, stop living in the past. Aspas was undisputed goat for 22-23, this year he is not performing and its okay cuz he's still insane.

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peaced

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“this year he is not performing” brother is lying in the age of the internet

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syncz

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aspas is decent this year but not up to his prior performance. He and his team missed Madrid, performed mid-bad in stage 1 playoffs, lost to FUT in shanghai while wo0t has shat on FUT the whole year.

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i wouldn't say aspas individual performance dropped with him top fragging almost every game even when they lose, the difference is that back on loud he had actual help to win hard games

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I think you're confusing team achievements with individual performance bro, aspas has never played better

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syncz

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wo0t + t3xture have better ASC, KD and stats on Aspas' main agent (raze) even with a larger sample size (rounds played) in the last 2 months. It is also literally wo0ts first two months in VCT and it's putting better numbers than your "goat". I agree that LEV is such a dysfunctional team that it's making Aspas' job harder.

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how was aspas the goat in 2023?

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How wasn’t he?

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ZekaTheGoat

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He wasn't even top 5 in any international event last year

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k1Ng was top 1 at Lock//IN yet I don't recall seeing GenG in the top 4 lmao. Is he considered the GOAT then because he did good? According to your statement yes he should then.

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syncz

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mb he wasn't undisputed in 23 but he was still great*

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I swear this whole site was calling Aspas the best itw after dropping a 40 bomb against SEN. Now wo0t is the best? Tf

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its pretty simple actually wo0t is very recent addition to heretics and what he shown so far he's looking insane. Aspas was last year goat. Its pretty simple just shift of times and meta.

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groomer

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Ok so a couple good performances makes him the best player in the world? What type of logic is that

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Ullyr

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i mean he and heretics got 2nd in last international event. His personal performance last tournament is nothing to scoff at.

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BulkyLettuce

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anyone calling aspas the goat after that regular season game vs sen was baiting, he was never the best

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ZekaTheGoat

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Aspas willy eaters are worse than tenz fanboys. At the very least tenz has actually been considered as the undisputed best itw before and has had impeccable lan performances

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ZekaTheGoat

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Regular season merchant

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right now yes. all time of course not lol

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Rb clears these frauds

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EMEAstan

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regional one trick can't keep up with those guys internationally

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aspas was the best itw in 2022 with yay. he surely is one of the best, but in 2023 and 2024 there were just more talented duelists, that tend to fall while he does not, and he keeps with consistency which is a very good thing.
aspas is very talented and consistent, but he never peaked that much because of his consistent form and this made him consistently one of the best, but not the best

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2022 literally was his worst year? He literally wasn't even a top 10 player that year. It just goes to show how revisionistic most of y'all calling aspas the goat are.

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1st i never said aspas is the goat,
2nd 2022 was the year of the OPT vs LLL and by far it was his best year, thropy, team wise

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Individually, it was by far his worst year. Had a good Iceland but then Copenhagen happened and then despite winning champs he failed to show a performance to even make it to top 10. Pancada and Less were by far loud's best player that year.

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wo0t is the best mechanical player in the history of valorant

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all of the threads today were clearly saying best player in the world "right now". I interpret that as player in the current best form and that is without a doubt Woot.

Obviously that needs to last to be considered the caliber of player aspas has been through the years, but aspas is not the most in form player in the world by any means rn

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How can you say he's the best right now? He choked two finals against FNC and GENG. How does that make him the best

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By that logic aspas choked the group stage so he's not the bets int the world?

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where is aspas this year

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Texture is the goat

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lorenzopajaroFC

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Everyone in this thread needs to watch that GenG vs LEV game

Stop conflating the team's result with individual performance

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Goat status is a crazy thing to talk about when valorants been out for 4 years and franchising for not even 2…

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asspiss is literally struggling to get a single win domestically, much less internationally

you'd have to be education in terms of a retard's standards to think of s3xture/Wo0t <<< Aspas