Imagine if NA and SA were 2 different leagues

Lilxcr

Would be cool since we could get more NA and SA tier 2 talent to compete in the major leagues.
Problem: Would definitely be more expensive then we would like and we would need to change the import rule to at least 3/5 from a region because of some teams in the league.

edit: i still like that NA and SA are combined tho

Psion

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not enough SA teams/talent ngl

anyth1ng

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yeah because while NA t2 gets stronger we literally only have shit teams to scrim

also fuck you leo faria dumb bitchass🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

Psion

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even before franchising i don't think there was enough talent for 10 teams though
edit for reference:
SA made playoffs 7/19 times before franchsing
NA made playoffs 12/15 times before franchising
EMEA 17/19

anyth1ng

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doesnt matter, the point is we cant develop anymore because our tier 2 cant scrim with good teams

cboomer

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bro i shit you not theres a romanian 15 year old shitting allover spanish people in EMEA rn and he didn't scrim a single team close to tier 1

its not because you can't scrim, its because your talent isn't there

BR just needs time to let their kids to come in, then the t2 teams need to drop the old people and let them play

anyth1ng

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obviously some players are ahead of the curve, but the average "talentedish" player needs to constantly play against the best to learn how to do things better, like M80 for example, no one there is like aspas or zekken but they got pretty far by training properly

also only americans are favorable to franchise tbh im tired of speaking bout this shit, even fucking plat chat thinks this ruins SA tier 2 but some vlr users wanna say otherwise

cboomer

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yeah but i prefer having LOUD (even furia and mibr are better than most t2 teams even if people don't accept it)

and i mean bro

Sato and palla will be in mibr and furia when they're old enough, and they will SKYROCKET playing sen and lev week in week out

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Psion

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and thats completely irrelevant to my point which you replied to

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anyth1ng

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how exactly?

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Psion

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i thought your point was that they can't catch up and fell behind because of partnerships, so i countered by saying even when they could develop talent by playing good teams(of which there was only ever 1 to 3) they didn't have enough talent. even if they could, it wouldn't be enough for 10 teams
edit: which means the point of them not being able to make talent is mute because even when they could the region wasn't good enough

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BrotherMan

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womp womp BR dont have good T2 talent

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anyth1ng

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cumnadians need americans to carry ur asses😭🫵🏻

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BrotherMan

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BR needs a fucking argentinian to carry their asses 😭🫵🏻

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anyth1ng

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fuck you might be right...

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Psion

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ngl u walked right into that

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BrotherMan

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bro alley oop'd it

continue thread →

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anyth1ng

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its cool tho im an argentina enjoyer

continue thread →

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Ernno

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China has thier own league tho? theres no reason for BR and LATAM not be separated from NA, especially with US visa shit

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Psion

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china has 2.15x the people that LATAM+BR has though so this comparison doesn't exactly work

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Ernno

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so does india and they are inside pacific

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Psion

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but india isn't anywhere near as developed as either china or latam(maybe latam but not china anyway) is.

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Ernno

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and both br and latam are way more devolped than china

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Psion

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whatever, the point is china is way more developed than india

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Ernno

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no, the point is that br and latam should be separated from na

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rtg9000

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definitely not in esports terms

...or for that matter general country terms

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Ernno

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in valorant competitive scene terms

Lilxcr

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I think it is just bad managment from some orgs. I think t2 SA has pretty good talent.