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Imagine if NA and SA were 2 different leagues

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#1
Lilxcr

Would be cool since we could get more NA and SA tier 2 talent to compete in the major leagues.
Problem: Would definitely be more expensive then we would like and we would need to change the import rule to at least 3/5 from a region because of some teams in the league.

edit: i still like that NA and SA are combined tho

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not enough SA teams/talent ngl

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anyth1ng
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Psion [#2]

not enough SA teams/talent ngl

yeah because while NA t2 gets stronger we literally only have shit teams to scrim

also fuck you leo faria dumb bitchass🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

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Psion [#2]

not enough SA teams/talent ngl

I think it is just bad managment from some orgs. I think t2 SA has pretty good talent.

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anyth1ng [#3]

yeah because while NA t2 gets stronger we literally only have shit teams to scrim

also fuck you leo faria dumb bitchass🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

even before franchising i don't think there was enough talent for 10 teams though
edit for reference:
SA made playoffs 7/19 times before franchsing
NA made playoffs 12/15 times before franchising
EMEA 17/19

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Psion [#5]

even before franchising i don't think there was enough talent for 10 teams though
edit for reference:
SA made playoffs 7/19 times before franchsing
NA made playoffs 12/15 times before franchising
EMEA 17/19

doesnt matter, the point is we cant develop anymore because our tier 2 cant scrim with good teams

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cboomer
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anyth1ng [#6]

doesnt matter, the point is we cant develop anymore because our tier 2 cant scrim with good teams

bro i shit you not theres a romanian 15 year old shitting allover spanish people in EMEA rn and he didn't scrim a single team close to tier 1

its not because you can't scrim, its because your talent isn't there

BR just needs time to let their kids to come in, then the t2 teams need to drop the old people and let them play

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cboomer [#7]

bro i shit you not theres a romanian 15 year old shitting allover spanish people in EMEA rn and he didn't scrim a single team close to tier 1

its not because you can't scrim, its because your talent isn't there

BR just needs time to let their kids to come in, then the t2 teams need to drop the old people and let them play

obviously some players are ahead of the curve, but the average "talentedish" player needs to constantly play against the best to learn how to do things better, like M80 for example, no one there is like aspas or zekken but they got pretty far by training properly

also only americans are favorable to franchise tbh im tired of speaking bout this shit, even fucking plat chat thinks this ruins SA tier 2 but some vlr users wanna say otherwise

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anyth1ng [#8]

obviously some players are ahead of the curve, but the average "talentedish" player needs to constantly play against the best to learn how to do things better, like M80 for example, no one there is like aspas or zekken but they got pretty far by training properly

also only americans are favorable to franchise tbh im tired of speaking bout this shit, even fucking plat chat thinks this ruins SA tier 2 but some vlr users wanna say otherwise

yeah but i prefer having LOUD (even furia and mibr are better than most t2 teams even if people don't accept it)

and i mean bro

Sato and palla will be in mibr and furia when they're old enough, and they will SKYROCKET playing sen and lev week in week out

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Psion
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anyth1ng [#6]

doesnt matter, the point is we cant develop anymore because our tier 2 cant scrim with good teams

and thats completely irrelevant to my point which you replied to

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Psion [#10]

and thats completely irrelevant to my point which you replied to

how exactly?

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BrotherMan
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anyth1ng [#6]

doesnt matter, the point is we cant develop anymore because our tier 2 cant scrim with good teams

womp womp BR dont have good T2 talent

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Psion
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anyth1ng [#11]

how exactly?

i thought your point was that they can't catch up and fell behind because of partnerships, so i countered by saying even when they could develop talent by playing good teams(of which there was only ever 1 to 3) they didn't have enough talent. even if they could, it wouldn't be enough for 10 teams
edit: which means the point of them not being able to make talent is mute because even when they could the region wasn't good enough

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BrotherMan [#12]

womp womp BR dont have good T2 talent

cumnadians need americans to carry ur asses😭🫵🏻

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anyth1ng [#14]

cumnadians need americans to carry ur asses😭🫵🏻

BR needs a fucking argentinian to carry their asses 😭🫵🏻

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BrotherMan [#15]

BR needs a fucking argentinian to carry their asses 😭🫵🏻

fuck you might be right...

#17
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anyth1ng [#16]

fuck you might be right...

ngl u walked right into that

#18
BrotherMan
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Psion [#17]

ngl u walked right into that

bro alley oop'd it

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BrotherMan [#18]

bro alley oop'd it

we are kobe & shaq

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anyth1ng
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Psion [#17]

ngl u walked right into that

its cool tho im an argentina enjoyer

#21
Psion
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anyth1ng [#20]

its cool tho im an argentina enjoyer

saadhak has been my favorite player since champions 2021

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anyth1ng
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Psion [#21]

saadhak has been my favorite player since champions 2021

id do anything for him

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Psion
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anyth1ng [#22]

id do anything for him

woahhh buddy ur getting ahead of urself you'd become french for saadhak?

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anyth1ng
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Psion [#23]

woahhh buddy ur getting ahead of urself you'd become french for saadhak?

shit now thats too much

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Ernno
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Psion [#5]

even before franchising i don't think there was enough talent for 10 teams though
edit for reference:
SA made playoffs 7/19 times before franchsing
NA made playoffs 12/15 times before franchising
EMEA 17/19

China has thier own league tho? theres no reason for BR and LATAM not be separated from NA, especially with US visa shit

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Ernno [#25]

China has thier own league tho? theres no reason for BR and LATAM not be separated from NA, especially with US visa shit

china has 2.15x the people that LATAM+BR has though so this comparison doesn't exactly work

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Psion [#26]

china has 2.15x the people that LATAM+BR has though so this comparison doesn't exactly work

so does india and they are inside pacific

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Ernno [#27]

so does india and they are inside pacific

but india isn't anywhere near as developed as either china or latam(maybe latam but not china anyway) is.

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Psion [#28]

but india isn't anywhere near as developed as either china or latam(maybe latam but not china anyway) is.

and both br and latam are way more devolped than china

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Ernno [#29]

and both br and latam are way more devolped than china

whatever, the point is china is way more developed than india

#31
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Psion [#30]

whatever, the point is china is way more developed than india

no, the point is that br and latam should be separated from na

#32
rtg9000
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Ernno [#29]

and both br and latam are way more devolped than china

definitely not in esports terms

...or for that matter general country terms

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rtg9000 [#32]

definitely not in esports terms

...or for that matter general country terms

in valorant competitive scene terms

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