Sacy v Chronicle GOAT debate

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Hades_Loves_Rb

Chronicle:
2021 2nd best player on his team, top 5 itw, first at berlin, second at champs
2022: ass
2023: 4th best player on his team, top 15 itw, 1st at Lock//In and Tokyo, 4th at champs
2024: ass
Sacy:
2021: Best Brazillian player, top 20 player itw
2022: Best initator itw, 2nd at reykavik, 1st at champs
2023: got screwed over with d0ph and syk0
2024: best initattor itw, 1st at Madrid, 1st at kickoff
Trophy v Trophy
Masters Belin: Mickey mouse, one group had 3 teams, had a streamer team
Champs 2022: Greatest tourney of all time, every team in there prime (optic, drx, xset, lev, fnc (with that roster), tl)
Lock//In: Mickey mouse, no double elim, FNC had 2 more weeks of more prep than the other half of the bracket
Tokyo: Mickey mouse, every team was ass, prx with cgrs, nrg with ardiis sage wall and s0m cove, drx with foxy9, loud choke etc.
Americas Kickoff: Hardest region, made it out of the region of death, played the most games
Madrid: Played the most games, beat every team they faced, dominated every team (but geng one seres)
Overall Sacy>Chronicle.
Tldr Sacy is the goat and chronicle is a fake held up on mickey mouse trophys

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dapada

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based flair

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Mca

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It finally started

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Yistyy

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Or how about we stop using the trophy argument?

It's just like saying Robert Horry is the goat of basketball because 7 rings > MJ's 6 rings. It's nonsensical.

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manca

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doesnt even matter cause bron is the goat and he got 4

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so by your logic wilt is the goat

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Yistyy

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Not at all, championships definitely matter but the people who just count who has the most and then call them the goat are stupid.

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Average_NA_fan

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s0cy carried by zekken and tenz btw

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Uncleben

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Chron in 2022 is ass but sacy in 2023 got screwed over???
Lmfao might be the most biased comparison ever

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Where’s chronicle champs trophy 😂

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Mortadelo

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Where’s Sacy’s Lock in trophy 😂

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TheAceGamer30

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Mickey mouse trophy and fraud event

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chronicle was not 1st at lock in or tokyo lol

alfa was better at both and if you watched lock in final you know ALFA was the best player on fnatic, he was like 1.8 rating in the FNC comeback

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Uncleben

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One series does not make Alfa better than chronicle at lock-in lol. Maybe ur point is correct but that logic is bad, chronicle was consistent through all of lock-in and had better impact

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cboomer

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https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf/?game=113138&tab=overview

Most series at lock in doesnt matter

This matters

Chronicle -11 in a GF And alfa 1.55 rating in the best comeback in valorant so far

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Uncleben

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That is a braindead argument
Every single match matters, u can’t make grand finals if u don’t preform in the other matches

It is always more impressive to be consistent throughout a tournament than only be good in finals

Also Alfajer went 3-12 0.34 rating in first half, maybe if he didn’t play so poorly fnatic wouldn’t have had to come back

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cboomer

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bro lock in was easy they played sen and furia, every match did NOT matter

all of fnc played poorly in the first half u dunce, he was the player who made the comeback happen though

they have no trophy without alfa, chronicle was just an ult orb that series

literally they only got challenged in the GF, and chronicle was -11 in it. hes not the best player

tokyo was clearly alfa too even if you use the whole tournament stats logic

https://www.vlr.gg/220448/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-gf

Alfa +23 in GF and leads the event in rating but ohhhhh nooo chronicle is the best player, hop off dick, even leo was better

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Uncleben

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Are u fucking stupid? I never claimed chronicle was better than Alfajer overall, but chronicle was as good as him during lockin. Ur literally only going off stats, did u even watch lock-in?

Fnc vs furia had a long ot, fnatic almost lost a 10-2 half to 100t, loud was not their only hard opponent

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you forget the part where sacy is a complete bot without odin

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Rey55

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Sacy got carried by players like Aspas, less, zekken, tenz etc. If chronicle had that he would be the most decorated player in valorant history.

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Hades_Loves_Rb

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except he had prime nats redgar sheydos deffo derke alfa and leo.

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Velocity23

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EXTREMELY BASED BRAZIL FAN. SACY is better than FRAUD chr0nicle

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ArtemisZ083

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Why debate it bro, why not just accept the fact that

Asuna_Yuuki sucks Chet's day and night

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Cromawarrior48

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chronicle clears

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jawn

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aspas is the goat