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Why not just have open league?

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#1
not_biased_at_all

Why not just have and open league where GC players can compete with males and call it a day. No separation. No discrimination. Just may the best team win.

#2
ash_knuckles
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you are legitimately stupid. at least read the comments in a previous thread before starting a new one

#5
not_biased_at_all
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Na i wanted to make a new one.

#6
ash_knuckles
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legit stupid

hence the verdict

#10
cartixuzi
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whats the verdict

#14
ash_knuckles
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Legitimate stupidity your honor

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cartixuzi
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only punishable by public execution

#3
ionlyHave1Zuni
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Isnt that just normal challengers 🗿

#4
thatpower
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do not cook + flair

#7
Yistyy
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There are reasons why GC exists, and it's not because riot is discriminatory.

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B1itz
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Go into the comment sections of any post related to GC, thats why women and trans people need a league for themselves

#11
Zerphyr1
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criticising an opinion does not equal hate or discrimination or sexism

#12
B1itz
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yeah thats obviously not what im referring to, I meant on Twitter more than VLR

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Zerphyr1
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I also meant twitter more than vlr. When I look under gc threads I do see the occasional straight up sexist but most of the time its people having valid arguments and criticism.

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B1itz
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Are you blind? Go into the comment section of this post and tell me the comments on it arent all either just insulting Flor and Sarah or being sexist in some way. Find one of the valid arguments you are talking about
https://twitter.com/ValorantEsports/status/1732520134013850081

#21
Zerphyr1
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firstly the twitter post u linked is just about who has the highest acs in game changers so how can anyone critique the post?

Secondly I looked through every reply out of the 79 replies and only found two negatives posts which saying that there are only 4 female players which is obviously transphobic.

If you looked at a post talking about gc in general like this recent one: https://twitter.com/sarah_frags/status/1732494522746081646

I found 4 sexist or negative posts out of the almost 200 replies which was:
"Devouch the women I get in my swiftplays including the one I queue with shoot everything except for the enemy can’t be true".
"There’s only 2 genders and you’ll always remain as what you were born. You satanist needa get a grip fr 🤦‍♂️"
"You look like a man you pale ghost. Forever unloved. Won't make it past 30 because once you lose your reaction time what have you got in your pathetic life ?"
"Average she they it"

Here are the negative posts that goes against people who disagree with sarah.
""seethe jobless incel freaks" goes hard"
"seethe misogynists"

and there rest of the posts include "COOK THOSE BIGOTS" or "STRAIGHT FACTS" or "cook those trashs" and "The haters are jobless freaks"

but in terms of critism I found:

"I agree with what your saying here, however I have an issue with the way Game Changers is setup. It feels like an infinite amount of showcase matches with no real path to higher levels. I think the idea of GC is good, but what is the point if it starts and stops there?"
"i thought gc for all sexual minority groups and not just for women?"
"the scene exists because even the best of Gc can't get past round 32 open quals in vct lol"
"women are not genetically inferior we just pass through a harsher mental block cause of the years of us being treated as a shadow of men (similar to what other minorities go through bc we actually got to prove ourselves, that's where the name game changers comes from even)"
"Then just do one open league - No one would complain then because then you couldn't self-ID and reclassify into the weaker one."

#22
B1itz
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ok so im confused, what is your point? The first 1st and 3rd comments you quoted are both agreeing with Sarah and just expanding on what she said. The 2nd one is just asking a question and again agreeing with Sarah.

The fourth one isnt transphobic its just a bad arguement, comments like the 4th one obviously arent why GC exists, comments like the 6 you quoted are why GC exists.

#23
Zerphyr1
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all the time you hear that gc gets a ton of hate and the players do as well but when you go into the replies to these there is almost nothing but positivity apart from about 1 in 50 posts but with any opinion there will be hate and 1 in 50 is barely any hate compared to what most people get for their opinions.

#9
Conut
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Bait used to be good

#13
Schizophrenic_Brazil_Fan
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The regular league is already open for females,nbs and trans. Problem is they need to win on the open qualifiers to join challengers, and they consistently lose before qualifying. Team Liquid, the runner up of this year lost to OSKV (a team of retired players turned casters)

Idk why they keep losing to bumfuck no name teams but this is the reason you don’t see the teams. Specifically.

The players it’s another story

#15
KyLZi
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Oh shit, so... VCT? like the league that they already have? yeah they should have 2 of them. 2 open leagues. genius

#16
NneonZz
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pre partnership there was VCT and right now theres VCL. anyone can compete. the problem is none of them can qual for challengers group stages. but who knows. maybe in 2024 SR will be one of the next teams in NA VCL

#17
LimiNaL
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It already exists

#24
Ballsamolee
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that is vct dumbass

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