GC Rosters would work on Franchise

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GC to teams would absolutely work on Franchising
Not VCT Americas
but DEFINITELY VCT EMEA 🗿
The fact Karmine Crap got by with ZERO strats, makes me believe GC teams like Team Liquid, Loud, V1 and SR would be able to reach atleast top 7/11

Bstrd MOGGS scream

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V1.

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Hard agreed, v1 would easily be in the middle of VCT EMEA

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cioccolat

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Hell, maybe even get top 4

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Delusional

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V1 >>> SEN

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Akukko

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Guys i don't know if you have lost your mind or what? The talent just isn't there yet.
Just take all these matches where top GC teams get beaten by uncoached unsalaried tier 20 players:
https://www.vlr.gg/66935/g2-gozen-vs-zyzz-vrl-northern-europe-polaris-open-qualifier-ro32
https://www.vlr.gg/250810/instinct-vs-version1-nerd-street-valorant-lockdown-2-finals-qf
https://www.vlr.gg/230562/megazord-vs-loud-gc-gamers-club-elite-cup-2023-immortal-r4/?game=all&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/230563/team-liquid-brazil-vs-cardume-gamers-club-elite-cup-2023-immortal-r4
https://www.vlr.gg/138535/cloud9-white-vs-the-pig-pen-knights-weekly-11-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/94333/cloud9-white-vs-girl-kissers-champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers-lr1
Every single time gc teams try playing outside of the GC league they get diffed by an immortal 5 stack. In no world would they be able to compete within the Franchising league which is literally supposed to be the best 165 players in the world

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cioccolat

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These "immortal stacks'' all play like PRX, uncoordinated.
Loud lost to bleed and proceeded to get top 3 in champs.
You cant play in radiant and expect to understand how bronze players work.
Have you even watched those games?? its just puggy gameplay

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Exactly. Your silver brain is missing my point completely. What i'm saying is that the top teams and top talent are capable of adapting to ddifferent situations and playstyles. "You cant play in radiant and expect to understand how bronze players work", You cant be paid 30k a month for losing official games against semi-professionals. Loud lost to Bleed in scrims not in an official match where the results actually matter. Loud were probably trying out their 3 controller comp on bind

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Also. If the immortal stacks win while playing uncoordinated does that mean that they are better individuals? Should that mean that they are hypothetically better than the teams you are implying would be able do stand in the mid-table of franchising leagues, so you are basically implying that an immortal 5 stack would do well amongst the best orgs? This just proves my point that the talent pool in individuals inst the same size. I'm sure that meL, sarahcat, Flor, Bob are all awesome players but the fact that there are so mane cis male players that are on the same level if not better. So, what makes them so special to have a granted slot in the franchising league?

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wtf are you on about??? if they are good enough to play in franchising, WHY NOT HIRE THEM?

there are so mane cis male players that are on the same level

the difference is teamplay, clout and salary, an org hires based on those. and by principle it makes sense to hire female players too
but dickheads like you dont like playing with them and keep declining their applications.

my point is Karmine Corp was absolute DOGSHIT, and played like bumbling buffoons and STILL won against BBL and KOI.
they CAN play high tier valorant, and shouldnt be mistreated like this

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Karmine corp would have smoked v1 even without any strats

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ok and? These are micky mouse events, maybe their playing for fun? You cis males like to undermine women. They different should be in franchise replace teams like kru or kc

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Akukko

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They are still official matches where they compete, they get paid a shit load of money a month to be in that tier. If you were to put a franchised team to play in these "mickey mouse tournaments" they would absolutely sweep everyone with their disciplined playbooks and adaptability. Also, since when was challengers qualifier a mickey mouse tournament, when literally Sentinels, Shopify rebellion, FaZe, TSM etc. were in there playing for a chance in the official VCT circuits

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0/80

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Someone is forgetting EMEA is the only ever GC champions

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cioccolat

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so? that means Emea GC teams would also do well in Farmers League EMEA 💀

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I think you misunderstood the thread

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I don't, he doesn't include EMEA Gc teams on purpose to go along the bait

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Just see what happens with G2 gozen against heretics and fut at Red Bull then we’ll see

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cioccolat

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TH is not winning

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Devoted

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2022 G2 Gozen and this years V1 would definitely survive in franchising

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