Several sources explain that C9 project is paying minimum salaries to all their players. All of C9 players have rejected the offer but Jake, so everyone is out but him. The plan is to give Mce 5 rookies and let him do what he does best while saving as much money as they can. Similar case to 100T, both orgs in financial struggle, don't wanna overspend
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https://www.esports.net/news/valorant/na-valorant-teams-to-cut-spending-for-2024-season-a-shift-towards-sustainability/
https://www.oneesports.gg/valorant/minimum-salary-franchise-teams-vct-2023/
"Valorant is a lucrative game with a lot of international interest. But it may be difficult to justify this level of compensation for players. Starting next year, teams like 100T and C9 could potentially offer players the league minimum salary, currently $50,000 per year for Americans"=
"The minimum salary for players in the Americas League — which includes North America, Brazil, and Latin America — would be around US$50,000"
my hot take:
paying your players minimum salary which is still 50,000 a year is fine imho unless they are consistently making the biggest tournaments of the year and going deep or winning. these players that are making those lower amounts a lot of the time don't makes orgs much money since they aren't championship teams, and if they were then sure I understand 50k being not enough but even then they get champions bundle money (even if 50/50 with org players would be getting 114.5k) and the org probably ups their pay anyways. they also get housing covered most of the time (teamhouses), and travel and food (if they have a chef). paying these players more if they aren't bringing in the $$$$ is unsustainable and why most orgs are in the red besides ones that pay these minimums and sell players. also a lot of these players stream, have youtubes etc anyways and that also makes them money.
almost every player relocates and flies home after bootcamp is over since it's not required to be there anymore
I don't think any of these players live fully in LA unless they make a lot by streaming / CC
it's why you see the players back at their places (cheap areas or with family) off-season and during the season they're at their team house or bootcamp area which is all covered by the org
"rent on off season and end lease" do you know hard it is to find leases like that? And how awful would it be to have to find new housing every 6-8 months after the season ends while you're playing?
You aren't making that 50k sound more appealing in the slightest.
The only valid point was the passion, which I can get but I wouldn't be passionate for scraps.
My anger is not towards players, but orgs have failed pathetically to monetize the value a pro brings to the team. You should not be getting paid 50k before taxes in a high cost living area and high pressure job when hundreds of thousands of people watch what you do. Period.
"rent on off season and end lease" do you know hard it is to find leases like that? And how awful would it be to have to find new housing every 6-8 months after the season ends while you're playing?
not wrong but if it's your passion it's what you have to do considering the landscape currently
The only valid point was the passion, which I can get but I wouldn't be passionate for scraps.
that is you not the players
My anger is not towards players, but orgs have failed pathetically to monetize the value a pro brings to the team. You should not be getting paid 50k before taxes in a high cost living area and high pressure job when hundreds of thousands of people watch what you do. Period.
understandable. these orgs suck at monetizing shit currently and that's why I feel it's necessary for the orgs to pay the minimum because otherwise they'd go out of business. No cool content, videos, promotions, meets, in-person advertising that is meaningful.
That last point is where I disagree. Why should the best players in the world, the ones who provide most of the value, who work their ass off suffer and live off scraps "for the passion"? Why shouldn't we put the pressure on the orgs to pull their heads out of their ass and monetize properly? If you can't pay livable and reasonable wages your business is not viable.
quickly to expand:
these players imho make enough to get bye on minimum but obviously not enough money to live WELL. I agree with what you're saying and no it doesn't sound appealing but unfortunately that is the landscape right now because orgs are treating this as a weird investment rather than a business a lot of the time. They are not monetizing and capitalizing on viewership and views as much as they should be and other sports programs do which is shooting themselves in the foot. Unfortunately this means they need to pay these low salaries sometimes to teams that don't bring in as much viewership because it's necessary for the organization to run and stay afloat, even if it isn't ideal for the players. Hence why I've stated it's understandable why the players declined the offer. All I'm saying is that 50k is still enough to live not that it's ideal.
That last point is where I disagree. Why should the best players in the world, the ones who provide most of the value, who work their ass off suffer and live off scraps "for the passion"? Why shouldn't we put the pressure on the orgs to pull their heads out of their ass and monetize properly? If you can't pay livable and reasonable wages your business is not viable.
They aren't the best players in the world, the best get paid way more. They are being paid the minimum because they made 0 tournaments the entire year. Those players are not living off scraps and they got 114.5k each with a 50/50 split JUST FROM the Champs bundle sales. We should put pressure on the orgs to monetize properly, but until they can it's the unfortunate reality that they HAVE to pay these lower salaries because their business IS NOT viable.
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