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vitzsu

GO BACK TO RAZE BROTHER THIS JETT OF YOURS IS TIRED

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TomPachaya

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Overated AF

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vitzsu

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fr derke is a fraud, if not for his superteam carrying the sit outta him he would be NAVI level at best

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Halleluhwah

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outfragged every EG player in the masters final + flair

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jonny05

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and flag

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TomPachaya

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yeah man atleast he can't get kill without team support. dude get ace with op and 2 team support kills. and cringe dan boys thinks he is good

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starxito_sike

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what are you saying bro 💀

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TomPachaya

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i'm saying truth

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starxito_sike

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whats your rank? I asked you this 5 months ago still no reply

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TomPachaya

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haha. why you need my rank. i told you i didn't play this game anymore. i just watch valorant matches. i don't have to time play valorant. and this dude think if they in high rank they have brain. man any player can speaking truth. no matter what rank they are

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ieathorses

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Found the iron

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TomPachaya

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haha your comment prove your brain

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drownnt

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even owen 16 stomps you

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voovoovoo

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you win one game and you open your loudick sucking mouth to baffle loudly

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vitzsu

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i posted this before loud won though

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in pro valorant its not just about kills brother

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TomPachaya

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if derke get lucky kills and being top frag fanboys say - "woow dorka is definitely in top #5 duelists"
but dorka didn't get kills - "in pro valorant its not just about kills brother"

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in pro valorant it's not just about kills. then there are lot of duelists better than this overrated dorka
(actually i agree with that in "in pro valorant its not just about kills" and you need to agree with that too "there are lot of underrated duelist in derke level and some are better than derka")

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h786

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hes coming for aspas

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dejikke

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unfortunately aspas will get grouped again

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titanwithpp

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Pretty sure derke is far far ahead at this point because aspas will get grouped again

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azureblade101

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derke is bot fragging yet fnatic are still winning, this is the power of fnatic!

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Gqviria

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Derke is the worst player in fnatic, that's why

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Master_oGgway

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Boaster exists

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The_Cleg

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We don't judge IGLs like that

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Gqviria

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You take derke out and put a handful of players and fnatic will work, you take out Boaster and i don't think it can.

I am not saying Derke is bad, but Leo, Chronicle and Alfajer are WAY better, and Boaster is a big brain IGL

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azureblade101

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this is true, duelist are easily the most replaceable.

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Master_oGgway

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You will never find a duelist like derke. He can play all the duelist at world-class level + he is a lanimal.

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TomPachaya

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lol

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TomPachaya

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yeah he is lanimal. he is nothing without his team. he is good team player but 1v1 , 1v2 , 1v3 situations he is so bad. he is not good as his fans think. maybe he is best showstopper and painshell player

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Master_oGgway

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Bro he carried fnatic on his back before alfa. He is the best duelist in emea. You can't replace him and find a lanimal like him. Right now, his team is so good that he doesn't have to carry them like he did when brave and mistic were part of the roster

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what? bro thinks derke carry fnatic. fnatic lose to sentinels in grand finals. bcz derke underperfomance. and mistic is very good supporter they give great support to him. that's why derke get frags sometimes. yeah he is good team player. but he is not best duelist in emea. cned,sayf better solo duelist. and their are lot of underrated dulist in derke level like qw1 etc...

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Jackerlus

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Brother, what dogshit team lets their duelist dry swing out with no support? He's disciplined enough to wait for util to increase his chances of winning fights. That's why they dominate teams.

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Cinderific

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are you referencing 2 years ago to rate him as a player now? you just invalidated anything you said. youre completely delusional

continue thread →

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TomPachaya

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dude gets -11 dwon votes to speaking truth. cringe VLR users. he is the worst player in fnatic. defiently agree with that

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iluckilyVA

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Derke is pretty good

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TomPachaya

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but without team he is nothing. overated af

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clocksky888

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If only your poor brain could keep up with your mouth sprinting all over the place... How long have you been watching DERKE play, and where were you during FNATIC acquired him? Have you watched CrowCrowd vs. Forze final, or for that matter any of his pre-Fnatic games? LMAO

KID, GTFO ... seriously, even if bait --> not good enough for 0/8

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TomPachaya

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i watched fnatic since 2021. he is compeletely overrated, without his team he is nothing. you are the one who doesn't have brain. take your meds dude

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clocksky888

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No, you haven't, if you're willing to comment low on one of Valorant's best players EVER and influence to other pro players! What, you don't agree? Then go ask any pro in the game... Please save me some laughter, kid. -------> You must give DERKE CREDIT for what he deserves and for his hard work. PERIOD!

Besides, it's not cool to dismiss any player without supporting evidence! I believe you've seen FNC games, but I don't see it in your words --> brain dead takes, and with all due respect... I haven't seen you around since FNC acquired SUMN FC. I have doubts!

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lol i watched every fnatic match man. he is overrated af. he can't get kills without team support. he is good team player. i can agree with that. but he can't be a good jett & good raze player. look at his movement man. their are lot of jetts better than dorka

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clocksky888

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No you didn't BISHHHH

And by the way, YOUR mom over my meds any day... any day, kiddo 😘

#56

TomPachaya

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your mom is in my bed kiddo. damn she is crazy man. cry is free cringe fan bois

#59

clocksky888

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Ohh, forgot to ANOUNCE you that your DAD is applauding me ;-) Keep sucking, kid

#61

TomPachaya

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yeah you're dad clapping to me too. she is great man. i think he is not your father

continue thread →

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The_Cleg

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You owned this fraud fr

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clocksky888

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Man, that guy is plain rude, neglectful, and hating for no reason - started beefing like there was no tomorrow - Holyyy cringe!
He even dared to claim that he watches Fnatic games. Like, seriously? I hope he was simply trolling cause if not, Ijust can't LMAO.

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TomPachaya

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they lost to sentinels in grand finals. bcz od derke underperforming

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clocksky888

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And what is your point? Is that an official FNC statement or your malnourished brain's fantasy?

YOUR malnourished brain's fantasy <--- more like it!

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TomPachaya

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you're blinded or braindead???? go touch some grass kid

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clocksky888

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Already touched your dead brain --- enough for the day

Back to my pocket, kid - don't be shy 🦄

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TomPachaya

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man you doesn't have brain to dead. cringe fanboi

continue thread →

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BerkcanTheKing

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he took it personal

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TomPachaya

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what? he is doing anything? you mean 3 op kills and get with knife kills with team support to took it personal

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Peteer

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?

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lebronmysugarplum

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Lol

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shrubonfire

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ACE

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Sk00d

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derke clears aspas

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TomPachaya

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he can get kills without team support?

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GreyDaze

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He cleared him at Copenhagen and istanbul🥱
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen

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what? dude put stats again. lol. derke is so trash look at his movements. he can't be good jett or raze. yeah he is good team player and best painshell player. i can agree with that

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wait what? he clears him cpenhagen and istanbul??? atleast they didn't play any match there.
this is the first time thay played against each other and that fight aspas win by +1
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
(in valorant anyone can diffed anyone. but derke is complately overrated player. there are lot of duelist in his level and some better than him)

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juststormmm

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EAT SHIT LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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TomPachaya

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he can get kills without team support?

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juststormmm

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KEEP CRYING BOZO

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TomPachaya

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Why i'm crying? i just speaking truth. lol. you're the guy who is crying man

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K2215

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if that's the case then aspas and yay haven't done shit. Duelist's main role is to create space and then get kills. Every team bases the idea of supporting duelist so he can frag. and if derke was that trash then the team would have kicked him before last champs. All you have against him is that he cannot kill without team support which is not the case And he has 82% clutch rate with entry frag being S tier. At Iceland he was impatient and overpeeking and that's one of the reasons why fnc lost final. the derke of now is much more improved and that's why your take has no value or meaning

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he is still overrated af. there are lot of duelsit who can do that. but he is good team player and best painshell & showstopper player always getting value from that. i don't think he is s tier jett. cuz his movement not good comparing to aspas,kk,something,keznit and his op flicks not thir level too

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K2215

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I'd argue he is top 3 and he never played jett in past 2 months (offical) so he is rusty. And about movement he doesn't need it. You say others are better because you see their flashy plays, derke isn't needed to do that because he is never in that situation. Derke in 2022 did all the flasy plays when team needed. And the guys you mentioned are mostly jett 1 trick. KK is great at op and jett but his raze sucks ass and they barely beat giants, keznit did all the weightlifting and still lost. aspas failed in tokyo cause he couldn't perform on jett or neon. derke is top 3 jett (something and aspas better) and top 2 raze (jing better). He is equally good at raze and jett , he does his entry and he frags WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT!!!

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derke is best paintshell and showstopper player he always getting value from that. but his raze sucks too he never can be jinggg,nukkye,jawgemo level. and kangkang raze is not that bad he is overconfidnce player but if you watch
https://www.vlr.gg/124201/edward-gaming-vs-northeption-champions-tour-east-asia-last-chance-qualifier-ubf/?game=93936&tab=overview
that match you never say kang kang raze trash. derke is not even top 5 raze bro their are lot of raze players better than him. but he is good with paintshell and showstopper.
whzy,bunny (free agent) and their are lot of underrated raze players better than him.
and jett cned definitly better than derka and sayf is good too.
their are lot of jetts i foegot mention in derke level and better than him

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K2215

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I don't think you get the point here

That match of kang kang was against Northemption that's a t2 team.
No one except in chine who whzy was until nrg game. Bunny is a streamer and joined F4Q for the LCQ and masters.
Cned peaked at champs 2021 and hasn't been in the same form consistently(partly navi's fault). Sayf is also way too inconsistent.
4.If you are pulling just stats then derke has better numbers than most of them
Derke is consistent for the past 3 years , tell me someone who is as consistent as he is, maybe victor but he plays raze at
certain maps only.
As for stats, you've seen his raze for the past few months and only jing is better at fragging with consistency.
And for jett
https://www.vlr.gg/183951/team-liquid-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w3/?game=119209&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/167368/sentinels-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-ro16/?game=113100&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/69012/guild-esports-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-challengers-week-4/?game=70247&tab=overview

HE IS AT THE TOP CAUSE HE IS CONSISTENT

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bro tier 2 whats the point?? tier 2 not that bad. yay can't performe so well in tier 2.
i agree sayf not consistent. then derke is not consistent too
bunny is very good raze when he plays to F4W
and whzy is very good player. no matter china or what
don't put stats. anyone can put stats their good matches.
i can put stats derke bad matches too

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K2215

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there you have it , you have said it yourself. yay can't perform in t2? why? he needs team support and so does every duelist. your main disscusion was that he needs team support and that's nullfied. T2 is kinda bad , we have so much gap between the teams in general that no one takes t2 seriously.
All i'm saying is that derke's consistency is higher than the most and you would know if you watch fnatic like me.
although the closest to him are zekken,keznit,qw1 who play both jett and raze at high level.
I don't have anything more to support my take and if you still aren't sold on him then just see him win champs.

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that's why i said derke is overrated he had good supporters. but there are lot underrated duelsits who doesn;t have good supporters

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feaN

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suck his cock

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TomPachaya

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he can get kills without team support?

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Pondy

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Idk how to tell you this but valorant is a TEAM GAME. If your duelist is raw peeking every fight the team is doing something wrong.

Bro giving Derke shit for playing the game right.

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that's why i'm telling derke is overrated. thare are lot of underrated duelist in derke level who doesn't had good supporters. derke is good team player i accept that

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Pondy

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What do you want him to do? Run 10 years ahead of his team and 2v1'd every round like Dep?

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Halleluhwah

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good jinx bro

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Wulftan

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LMAO

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jumb0

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mrGoudas

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SIT DOWN FUCKING MUTT

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GreyDaze

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1 off game and all of them started barking lmao

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The_Cleg

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Derke Will cry because his Jett is "worse than aspas" in your opinion and he'll keep his trophies

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TomPachaya

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dude get ace with team support cringe fan boys thinks he is good. lol

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Martinao

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Bro that’s proplay not platinum. And he would dominate radiant without team support

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TomPachaya

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haha lol if NA servers yeah he can dominant maybe

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underdog_Supporter

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Derke was the most influential player against that Lockin Finals comeback lil bro

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h786

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true. no one else has mentioned this

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underdog_Supporter

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I only realized it because I saw the VOD. The communication and encouragement from Derke were world-class.

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TomPachaya

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lol. haha haha haha

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h786

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bro lost and has nothing else to say!

#52

TomPachaya

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i'm lost? crymore cringe fan boys. he is the most overrated player in VCT. that;s the truth

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Archie___

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Flag + flair my guy

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clocksky888

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hahahaha... my poor child, you have a lot to learn!!!

I mean --> A LOT, my poor child 😂😂😂😂😂

P.S. At least edit the message as you contradict yourself --> YOU REPLIED TO OP here!

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TomPachaya

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lol. i mistakenly replied. and that doesn't mean nothing kid. you need to learn about valorant first kid. and prove your brain in this comment again

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clocksky888

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YOU F-UP, kid even without realising it... no bueno, cabrón <-- Please pardon me for my terrible language, as it appears you still don't get it ... ffs, kiddo.

You have a lot to learn!!! and I mean --> A LOT, my poor child 😂😂😂😂😂

#75

TomPachaya

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haha this no brain kid says need lot of to learn for mistake. go touch some grass poor child 😂😂😂😂😂

#77

clocksky888

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QUIT IT --> you're not fun 🦄

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BETH_HARMON

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Posts: 468

#92

vitzsu

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what

#93

Boltsnationriseup

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Even tho he’s not doing to hot right now I’m scared of what he could do in the bracket

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it doesnt matter what he plays ,he just owns.

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kek

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FearX_Hunt

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I still believe in derke