New SEN - PlatChat

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RickyIndian

-Marved
-TenZ

+JohnQT
+NiSMO

get a real sentinel IGL player with fragging power
get a top tier flex player in NA
pAncada back to smokes
also Kaplan had experience with john and nismo

really solid take from Sideshow, thoughts?

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Where does Iceman go

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Ailed

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My heart

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canyon

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Then where do I go?

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danii1

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My heart

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canyon

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Then where does ZETA go?

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japan

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Los Angeles

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RickyIndian

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home

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Manaphy

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NRG, Vic back on duelist s0m becomes flex jimmy smokes 2024 champs winners gg.

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No thnx we good

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Manaphy

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No, we're not.
https://www.vlr.gg/220453/nrg-esports-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/220442/fnatic-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubqf

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Meteor_stan

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we suck
we need marved or yay

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BNR

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yay

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flea

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Marved in, fatdiss go back to his shithole in ewrope and s0m back to main duelist

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Nachtel

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Untameable beasts

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I_HATE_MCE

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-everyone
+m80 whole roster

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xxtygo

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while it sounds good, there is no way you can say anyone on that m80 team is better than zekken or prime sacy

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I_HATE_MCE

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I agree with you, but team dynamics are more important in valorant. Current SEN is just not working as a team

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xxtygo

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i also agree with that, at worse you sign the whole m80 and zekken floating 6th and integrate him in the 5 with time. But in terms of pure mechanical skill+ top level agent pool, there isnt as good of a player as Zekken in North America

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-koala + zekken

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Make sense tbh if Marved doesnt want to compete or he can just come back to NRG

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NRG is definitely not replacing s0m now

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s0m aint the one being replace, ardiis is, s0m has experience playing duelist and would offer more firepower than Ardiis

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Pumsyslayer

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Nah s0m is hot-ass on duelist

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why NiSMO? unless ur saying zekken plays full time duelist

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RickyIndian

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yes zekken goes full time duelist

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NISMOs KAYO is so cold

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WinterZ20

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W fix tbh

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NOCAPPPA

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The team does not feel like a team. I think they should try players who are really good with each other instead of getting worlds best players together. idk but on paper this looks good too( +nismo+qt)
but they looked good on paper before this season started too

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RickyIndian

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the thing is that at the start of the season, there were role issues

the roles are clear here tho

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NOCAPPPA

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yeah forgot about that. After getting qt and nismo the most important thing is to keep rob moore miles away from the roster

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Role would be clear if they had enough time. they had comms issues from the beginning and before LCQ they couldn't even get good practice. All the good teams that practiced against them said good things about them but unfortunately they couldn't show that for whatever reason. Also, it didn't help that kaplan didn't design their map pool to their strength, they fked up their vetoes against C9. These problems would get better with time. NiSMO and JohnQT wouldn't solve these problems right away.

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Sen should sign M80

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Idk, signing m80 is more of an investment somce they prolly arent a top 3 NA team rn, Idk if Rob is smart enough to invest on these guys

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people want sentinels to sign t2 players vlr never had the plot lol

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shut up

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cboomer

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Cry

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jawn

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considering the contracts this is the most likely scenario, W

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SaltyMcNulty

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You guys need to stop sucking sideshow's dick and balls. The guy doesn't know shit and always had a hate boner for TenZ. when have they ever got anything right? Didn't they shit on KRU even in their last podcast before LCQ? He wears the clown costume for a reason. We as a community need to stop giving them 'intellectual' treatment as we would give to sgares or sliggy, just take them as entertainment and that's fine.

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RickyIndian

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i mean KRU literally went 0-9 man...

how can you bet on them to do something like this

and this is genuinely a good take from him

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SaltyMcNulty

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Anyone can analyze what's in front of their eyes. If I see LOUD beating everybody and call them the best and analyze why they are so good there is nothing special about that. The sign of a good pundit or a coach is that when they can bet on the right thing even when everything is not going right for that team or that player. They are always making comments in hindsight but hindsight is 20/20.

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IusedToBeAgirl

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dude sen need an IGL lmao they have to make changes

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SaltyMcNulty

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Marved will only get better at it. Unless they can get a top top IGL, I wouldn't want them to settle for someone else. The ghost core is the recipe for success for that M80 team. If u want johnQT, might as well get their whole roster.

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Nah these changes are terrible. +johnqt I agree with but -pancada instead, they play the same role and it frees up marved to play without igling (he will 100% frag harder without igl responsibilities). Tenz is not the problem, honestly no one on sen is lackluster individually. Just need better leadership and teamplay.

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if tenz can get a good skye n breach as well then i think he can stay

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tinted

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Why? sacy can play those roles.
zekken - main duelist (jett on single duelist maps, raze on double duelist maps)
tenz - flex/secondary duelist (kayo, jett when zekken plays raze)
marved - controller
johnqt - sentinel
sacy - scan/flash initiator

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IusedToBeAgirl

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sacys skye is ass

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Pengu12

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Sacys Skye ain’t ass Sacy played like ass but so did everyone else

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RickyIndian

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-pancada means -sacy

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There is no way SEN is going to -TenZ
TenZ is SEN's cash cow. All merchandise sales will go down the gutter if they drop TenZ.

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Targu1n

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they can keep him as their 6th man and play him once a year as 2nd duelist

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That argument is just boring. SEN were ready to drop tenz in 2022. They are a franchised team now and creating a competitive team is their highest priority. That being said there's no reason to suggest that tenz can't compete at that level. They lost LCQ bc they just threw crucial rounds, so now count how many rounds has tenz thrown and how many he has won for them. He is not there just cz he is the cashcow.

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Mikejones69

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Then why they did not dropped him ? huh ?

They brought him back during the Americas league and dephh was forced to retire.

If you see sentinels youtube Content/podcast videos tenz is present in almost every of those videos ahead of other guys.

Sentinels viewership, merchandise and Sen society membship will drop If tenz leaves.

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SaltyMcNulty

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No one argues that he doesn't have clout. Are you dumb? They didn't have reason to drop him cz he wasn't the fkin problem and syyko made that decision not fkin rob moore. Syyko said that in a podcast. When you lose, everything becomes a problem and you overanalyze, that's what sen did earlier but if you give a roster time, good structure and fix the fundamentals like comms, defaults, trading etc then they are gonna be an insane bunch of people like EG no matter the player profile.

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Pengu12

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They didn’t drop him cause no one else wanted to join Sen… it was either Tenz or like Bdog

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MarioSvn

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i don't think pancada and sacy will stay
TenZ i don't know, i just want him to be happy.

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sacy and pancada have contracts until 2024.

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michaelisupset

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they are actually so based my god.

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cCyan

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they will lose the majority of their followers if they remove tenz .
so this ain't happening

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Shahzam would be a better fit than johnqt

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your brain is playdough

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PANCADA SUCKS

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damn what a horrible take

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Honestly Sen has a lot of good options, they could keep the roster butttt I think some changes are needed maybe time for all NA, my dream roster would be
TenZ(Flex)
Zekken(Duelist)
Marved(Smokes)
Johnqt(Sentinel)
Eeiu(Initiator)

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SaltyMcNulty

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Wouldn't mind trent if possible but otherwise this is the best take yet. Also they should try to get PRX Alecks as a first priority. His coordinated chaotic style suits SEN player profiles perfectly.

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man, sacy and pancada are not leaving. they have contracts until 2024. tenz and marved's contracts end this year. i do think that marved would be overall better than pancada cause of the lack of langauge barrier but idk if sen wants to pay out that contract. either way sacy is staying. i think johnqt replacing either pancada or marved and being the senti igl would be best and nismo replacing tenz would also be good

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Pengu12

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If Tenz decides to play they likely sign him over nismo tbh

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Savvii

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If they actually want to win...

-Tenz
-Marved
-Sacy
-Pancada

+Zander
+Nismo
+johnqt
+eeiu
+Koalanoob (6th man)