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"frags don't mean anything"

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#1
brobeans

"frags don't mean anything" or "kda doesn't matter"

brother, it is an fps game...

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TrialRunnr
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who tf said that?

#7
Domination
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https://www.vlr.gg/post/2540506/sen-no-needs-pancada 🗿

#10
TrialRunnr
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Pancada has been their worst/2nd worst player this split tbf

#13
Tashfeen
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who’s be worse than pancada? dephh?

#14
TrialRunnr
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Tenz arguably

#19
INTERCEPTOR
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you're delusional if you believe that

#21
TrialRunnr
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he has had 3 good games this whole split and 2 of them have been against 100t

#23
INTERCEPTOR
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you're delusional if you believe that fakeflagger

#24
TrialRunnr
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its literally stats bozo

#31
Slayeroffuss
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The only bad game he had was against nrg where the whole team got shit on. Other game he was sick.

#35
TrialRunnr
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am I still delusional?

#29
Gutwi
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Stats

#3
koromast
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ok but fns

#6
brobeans
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is no exception. whole point of strats is to make fragging easier

#16
koromast
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you can win a 5vs5 if spike explodes or if you defuse

#18
brobeans
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0/8

#25
koromast
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wdym? its literally a fact, gameplay of this fps is around the spike, not around the fragging thats why fnatic is snoozeful af to watch but they win

#26
brobeans
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fnatic is the best fragging team in the world rn even with boaster

#4
shrubonfire
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yes and that is why qwertyy going 0/16 in bronze was actually his teammates fault

#5
babysasuke
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That’s not the argument

The argument is that when a team loses you can’t just look at the person with the lowest ACS and say “LOOK its his fault he didn’t get enough kills!”

#9
brobeans
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true. it's the whole team's fault. but negative kda could be a big reason for losing

#17
Cannot
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yeah if a player is simply losing their duels that they need to be winning then yeah it really negatively impacts the team each round. but so much more goes into the game that you can't just look at a few numbers and determine how a player actually played in a game or how good they are. it can give a decent indicator, but so many more things go into it, mostly playstyle and role in team

#20
brobeans
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reminds me of the "bad test scores/grades don't determine if i'm dumb" argument

#22
Cannot
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??? just watch the game and use your eyes and brain to try to figure things out rather than looking at numbers like KD or even score.

#28
brobeans
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again, it is literally an fps. shouldn't really have to say more

#34
Cannot
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you dont know what you are talking about. its not just an fps, its not just like cod tdm or some shit. there is a lot more going on than just kill = win. mostly map control and util plays which this argument just doesn't take into consideration. you can have so much value in a round without ever seeing a single soul. stats can't account for that

#32
valaranteplayer
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do you actually play valorant? Genuine question

#15
terribletyranny
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correct, but its definetely a big part of the reason why a team loses
if your whole team is dropping kills but youre unable to convert at an unusually high rate, your team will always be at a disadvantage in every gun and util fight they take

#8
Nilonesia
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Man oh man, I love anchoring a site and getting so many frags each time

#11
jackb2016
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I think you are misunderstanding what they said

#12
brobeans
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there is no "they." this is a general statement bc people always repeat this

#27
Astar
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this is actually true

PRX got 3rd in tokyo with 4/5 of whole team had minus K/D whole tournament

#30
LimiNaL
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I think it’s supposed to be “frags don’t mean everything”

#33
masterX
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people nowadays still depend on KDA? hey there is KAST and rating already

#36
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy
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idiotic take. without context kills are meaningless if you pick up 10 fkin eco's in a half that doesnt mean you had huge impact. KDA is a meaningless stat in pro play its more a measure of how hard a team is winning as opposed to how well a player is performing with a few exceptions. just looking at kills out of context and treating every fight like a clean 50 is an absolutely brain rotted way of analyzing the game.

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