mako>>s0m | VLR.gg

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skatman

saw some na fans saying s0m>mako
why is the goat controller since iceland marved being compared to s0m
one bad tourament for drx fans and na dogs already with the slander
but if you call out crashies for being mid in tokyo they get all defensive kekw

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this is a known fact idk why people think s0m is better
he's good yes but mako has been the best controller in the world for 3 years running

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vooooooooooooooooooooooop

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1494/champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo

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Mako started playing smokes almost 2 years ago.

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MaKo is the GOAT of Valorant and always has been

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boaster omen >>> both

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skatman

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i would shittalk but i love boaster too much to do that :(
go away alex

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redgar reyna >>>

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MaKo is still the best controller in the world ofc. S0m is 2nd tho obviously

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skatman

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fair ig 👍

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Reimsy

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anyone who says s0m is better is currently dying of a copium overdose

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brobeans

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both have zero majors

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Hynix

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yes, but zombs does so clearly he is the best controller in the world.

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brobeans

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you are correct. he was the best or one of the best controllers in the world

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AllMight

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Lmao

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Typer

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Mako has been consistent controller and player for DRX. even when his team having bad day he steps up for them

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S0m > Mak0

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SigmaMale

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s0m clears
https://www.vlr.gg/220449/drx-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-lr1/?game=all&tab=overview

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sigmab0t

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Revlo

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damn s0m really did clear b0tko

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I feel like mako hasn’t been great recently

S0m definitely outperformed him in masters

S0m > mako

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skatman

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team diff
drx been struggling
players don't even know who they gonna be playing with next game
but that's not on mako

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poweredjay

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bro missed the entire point of this post

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s0ber

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It's been one tournament

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moshimoshiman24

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we all know mako best controller in world lol. he just gets griefed every tourney from his trash team

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randomperson

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prx mako would go crazy

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Maengboo

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He'd be clutching every round that PRX throws xD

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randomperson

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removes prx's weakness
this would be the pacific super team

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language barrier exists tho sadly.

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randomperson

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just would just have to learn a bit of english
surely he already knows a bit right?

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MNFRKK

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no matter how bad DRX performances are, this guy always pop off

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SigmaMale

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https://www.vlr.gg/220449/drx-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-lr1/?game=all&tab=overview
Wow he really popped off with 0.64 rating. This yo goat? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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MNFRKK

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yea he might playing bad for some, but he's not throwing on an OT round XD

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SigmaMale

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Yea instead he threw an entire match 😂😂🤣🤣🤣😭

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Too bad ICE MAN still exists to make this discussion invalid 😞

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🥶

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The_Cleg

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S0m performed better than MaKo at Tokyo and was solid in Sau Paulo as well.

Does this mean he's better than MaKo? Probably not, but DRX have been struggling for a while now.
I'll still give some time to MaKo and DRX but if s0m outperforms mako again in LA, the MaKo best controller era is gone.

And anyway the difference between the two player is not that big as some people portray it, not rn at least.

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skatman

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and mako performed better at lock in.
drx haven't been struggling for a while, only this lan. they were the best team in group stage where make was their best player and 2nd in pacific playoffs
if s0ms team does better again and mako gets worse stats, sure lets just throw years of mako being the rock of drx and his consistency out of the window and put som on number one for half an year of performance.

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The_Cleg

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They were not the best team in group stage by a damn mile?? EG, EDG and NRG all looked better, and maybe even NAVI. And Lowkey mako did not look like the best player but rb did...

Also yes MaKo performed better than s0m at lock//in but that's literally my point. s0m has never been better than MaKo except for Tokyo. So ofc saying s0m>MaKo just because of one lan is overreacting, but if it's gonna be two back to back lans then I might as well put s0m over MaKo.

Consistency doesn't have anything to do with this. It's all about results. What MaKo did 1 year ago does not affect in any way at all on how good he is now. Sure we have to keep it into consideration, but it actually doesn't translate into anything. Valorant is an eSport of momentum. A team that was considered the best team in the world can look lost a few months later (acend, sentinels etc.). Saying a player is better than another atp of time because 1 year before he was so much better is such an egregious take.

Then when he'll come back and be the MaKo we are used to, he'll have is crown back, but he'll have to earn that again.

And also it's not only one lan where he underperformed, but two lans. He was underwhelming in the pacific playoffs as well

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Rodu

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Thoughts on where Mindfreak and Chichoo places within the top controllers as of now?

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Typer

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Chichoo game sense is really good and he reminds me of prime Nats style.
He needs some more time

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GreyDaze

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Chichoo isn't a controller. He's a Sentinel/viper player like nats,suygetsu etc

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adilKhan

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Bro MaKo clears every smokes player in existence idk who's comparing him to freaking s0m, like are your standards that low? 😂

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meadows

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s0m was better at champs

mako has been better for longer

if s0m continues to out-perform him it becomes a discussion. for now its not even up for debate

mako >>> s0m