Viewership is dogshit

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https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2023-masters-tokyo-valorant

Peak - 587k that too for loud match. PRX v Nrg went to 3rd map and close as well still only 515k. If EG win vs prx. This event isnt gonna get anywhere near 1m

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because of timezones

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Is it tho? Pacific league had most viewership. Reality is valo is nothing without big orgs, because big orgs means pop. streamers doing watchparty

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? what you talking about lol NA is quite literally all asleep. Its terrible timing for them especially when this is during work days.

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Well brazil event was same for asia. So i guess asia care about valo and americas doesnt?

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Stupidity on another level

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friendly fire

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Yes and i am from Jamaica

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bro what is confusion

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Americas league had the most viewership
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2023-americas-league
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2023-pacific-league

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https://escharts.com/news/vct-challengers-2023-split2-overview

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"Challengers Split 2" did you forget to read properly?

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We're discussing VCT pacific/americas, not challenger leagues.

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Nah, Americas did. And the vast majority of pacific's viewership was japanese. No japanese teams in tokyo means that most of that viewership isn't activated.

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pacific timezone was better for eu

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if zeta in masters = STONKS

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Who cars

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Understandable its horrible times for NA and EU. Its mainly catter towards Asia and honestly its always been dogshit for them in terms of timezone. It doesn't matter the Games been great imo.

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You could say the same thing about lockins. It was terrible for asia.

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bro except zeta pacific brings 0 viewership

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the overall pacific had more viewership compared to emea in tier 1 and tier 2 without zeta :)

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In tier 1 except grand final the most watched games were bc of zeta :
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2023-pacific-league

In tier 2 once again except japanese league the viewership is dogshit compare to na's one or french one :
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-challengers-2023-france-revolution-split-2-valorant
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-challengers-2023-korea-split-2-valorant
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-challengers-2023-north-america-challenger-playoffs-valorant

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we are comparing to emea right. the emea league had lower average viewership and peak than pacific. overall tier 2 scene in watch time was higher ranked than emea by almost twice whose shows that more people are watching pacific than emea with both region having similiar format in the eco system.

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You cant compare watchtime of both regions while pacific has more challengers leagues ...

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kirito5133

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emea and pacific has same amount of leagues...

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pacific got 11 and emea 9 pls check what ur saying...

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by margin of 2 the difference shouldnt be double and one of the time eu got a event the viewership was 780k.

continue thread →

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but anyway we'll see in champs which region brings the viewership since timezones will be good for emea and americas, but think I have an idea since the only time asia get an international event its the worst in term of viewership :)

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https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/blasttv-paris-major-2023

compared to this its really not bad bro

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Not sure about that. One is franchising making sure big orgs are playing. Other one is open, which had most number of underdogs in the playoffs.

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Master should be paired with the next level of competition

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Idk why you guys care or compare viewership. Does people think they don't have life or things to do?

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Bad time for all region
Late night or early morning in EMEA and Americas
Working time in Asia

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Bro valo is under 18 game. Working time doesnt effect valo viewership that much. Average age is literally 15

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School doesn't matter I guess lol

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anay

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if we get a close finals then 1m can be reached but yeah timezones are not good for any region it seems like

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fictional

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blud thinking everyone is jobless in this world

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games are like 6am to 9am i would be watching most if I could, tournament quality seems good.

then again if it's not me getting fucked over by timezones its some other country, so I can't really complain

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Because all they track on that site is twitch and YouTube...so many other sites in the Asian room that don't get checked there

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VibsTV

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Bro atleast see before commenting, they literally measure all of the sites except chinese. Which is the case for all the events in any esports because they give wrong numbers

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exactly. EDG game had over 2 mil on bilibili at one point. he gives too much credit to a 3rd party site.

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not 2million, 8.5 million

https://twitter.com/SeulgiVLR/status/1671100050812944388

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bRO bili use twitter metric system not live viewership. If a stream is seen by 10 million, it will say 10 million.

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#45 mention it was 2mil, my point it's 4x BIGGER than that.

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I would like to think Riot does not measure the success of events based off of straight viewership alone primarily from NA and EU viewers

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bro just enjoy the matches who gives a fuck about viewership, it's riot's job to worry about that not you

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are you a riot employee? why do you care so much about their viewership? touch grass, get bitches

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https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-stage-2-masters-copenhagen

it's fine, middle tourney of the year is always lower, 2022 stage 1 was higher then 2022 stage 2 aswell

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-stage-1-masters-reykjavik

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even for the pacific viewer this time is dogshit. the match started at 12pm ( while i was working )

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Bro average valo viewer is 15. Most of them arent working

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idk about the average age but i have a telegram group from my campus alumni that watches valorant. most of our members are 18+ and we have 3542 members from all over asia and some australia.

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does this count asian streaming websites?

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Bro chinese viewership is not counted in any esports because those numbers are not live numbers and therefore unreliable. But yeah they use other asian websites