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#1
Tashfeen

i was recently having a talk with a friend on how much valorant players actually make, talking about mostly tier 1 franchised rosters. i’ve heard teams like Sentinels and NRG have extremely high salaries. does anyone have a clue as to what these numbers could be and do you have a source you can provide?

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valulrantefanboy
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Nitr0 got paid like 30k month back then and i think he was one of highest paid players in NA, sintraa at his peak was paid around same. For average franchised players NA, i think salary around 10k-15k monthly

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sheahhhh
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no way he left 30k a month for CS

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moshimoshiman24
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I wouldnt b surprised if he makes more just based on salary but cs makes a lot more from tourneys then val

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widepeepofrosty
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50k a month

source: myself

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babi
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widepeepofrosty detected
opinion accepted

#11
Ineptus_A
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that's the bare minimum, most t1 pro will be getting 3-4x the amount

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cobalt21312
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numbers probably are not public but its pretty easy to assume the people on sen (especially tenz) get paid a lot because of how popular they are. challengers players get paid around 5k a month, i wouldnt be surprised to see franchised around 10-20k

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SEN_brasileiros
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FURIA dgzin said that he earn about 17k USD.
Probably FURIA players earn around 10-20k (20k maybe Mwzera) but varies around that.

Probably SEN players earn way way more because their fanbase, 30k-50k easily.

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Goatguynut
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Players like FNS and TENZ probably get base salaries of at least 25k a month with certain incentives like if the team does well, streaming hours etc...

Other not as big name players like c0m is probably like 7-10k a month + incentives

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Goatguynut
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25k is also being very generous i would not be shocked at all if players on NRG and SEN are making 40k + a month

#8
kskm
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yay mentioned the numbers were close to 300-400k an year for most elite level franchise players - these probably include ESOPs and base salary is lower.. So they probably make like 15-20k a month with some of the elite tier 1 going up to 25k.. Players like tenz, s0m probably abit higher cause of their own streams and brand deals.

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ItsOnlyAGame
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ESOPs of esports orgs? lmao not worth the paper of the contracts

#19
kskm
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most of them are not publicly traded so i dont think most of them offer that.. i just heard some did

#9
melon_fan
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IRS vs VCT

#13
TrialRunnr
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Sen players prolly earn around 30-50k a month, Zekken maybe a bit lower.
Other orgs I would guess around 15-35k depending on the players.
and lower tier players or players who havent accomplished much yet probably around 7-15k.

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TrialRunnr
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Tenz might aswell be earning more than 50k, he is probably the highest paid pro and thats excluding his brand deals and twitch streams.

#14
gamr
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If it’s anything like csgo, salaries change based on team success

#16
SAMPV6
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T2: 5-10k
T1: 15k+, with some being high as fuck, I think sinatraa was 40k/month back then

#17
Zeron
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tax evasion

#18
brobeans
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they get paid too much. although orgs are going bankrupt regardless bc esports is a net loss domain

#20
Cannot
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Everyone is throwing around these really high numbers that could be believable. The only thing I want to comment on is the why for the salaries being so inflated.

And that would of course be that teams realistically have very little to nothing to offer to players in ways of benefits for their talents other than just money. So if an org wants to pick up a player that is very good its just essentially a bidding war and in the end the player wins. There is no real way to discourage this type of behavior because the org with the most money gets player they want and the player gets a big paycheck.

I saw the idea of a salary cap talked about and I think that would be pretty good because not only does it benefit orgs, which are just a struggle bus of loses and non profitability, allowing them to not have to spend so much on salaries, but also it would probably help the overall health of the competitiveness of the scene as it would prevent a team (like FNATIC has currently done) from just picking up a bunch of the arguably best players in the world on their respective roles without having any real consequence.

#22
kapteN
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Don’t get why you’re being downvoted.

It’s true what you say - inflated salaries are the biggest downfall of the esports bubble right now. ENCE in CS reported $1m in profits in 2022 and that’s only due to scouting cheap players that had potential.

Most orgs are making a loss since the sponsors aren’t seeing any ROI (main esports audience barely has any money), and in order to even attract good sponsors you need to be one of the top teams. If you don’t get the best players you don’t see results => you don’t get good sponsorship deals.

The whole result is a spiral to pay more for better players to get better sponsors, who are then disappointed with their sponsorship results while player salaries keep rising and need to get funded by even more sponsorships.

It’s super unsustainable in its current form.

#21
LyCan52
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1 million

hope that helps

#24
moshimoshiman24
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just put it this NA pays the most out of everyone

#26
Mbappe
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too much tbf

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