csgo is a joke

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Alpac4

who let a tier 4 team reach finals 😭😭😭

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Dead game non cares 🥱

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botroic would get smashed too it doesnt matter

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cheatroic don't deserve to be at the major, they should have been banned from attending Valve tournaments just like Monte with demqq and woro2k

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Nisham

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They used the coach cam bug alot right?

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Hunden was banned for it yes

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The skill gap between tiers is much smaller since the games been out for much much longer than Val

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Alpac4

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nah the old player need to get replaced they are getting too old 😭

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Ullyr

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This they keep recycling old players so much. I feel like the tier 2 teams usually have more young players just lack experienced.

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Agree, only scene that I feel like doesn't cycle between old players in KR and CN in League.
Jackey Love was 17 when he was signed, Bin was also 17 when signed.

I feel as though teams don't wanna put in the work on developing players and instead let them develop in tier 2. Which is fine but at times you gotta take risks and add in something fresh

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No skill gap, they let anybody in at this point, csgo only superiority is the gunplay and the history, val clears the rest i fear.

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Whats the rest?

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the only thing that makes you think val has some skill gap is a dogshit system called franchising
without franchising those so called “tier 1” teams from their respective regions can be exposed
take turkey as an example
i strongly believe that players like sociablee would farm on franchised turkish teams
blud passed the trembo standard

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Val no skill gap, cs no skill gap, the only game that has skill gap is chess i fear.

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even 200 elo in chess at highest levels is insane difference

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who let zeta place 3rd at reykjavik? who let prx place 4th at reykjavik? who let a team with a player as shit as kiles win a champs trophy? who let c9 top the americas league with a collegiate player and someone who couldnt make it to challengers?

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2021 champs are the biggest fluke tournament out of all, starxo life round.

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gamr

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true but thats not the point i was trying to make. my point is that we should appreciate cinderella runs, appreciate the gap between t2 and t1 closing. appreciate that teams make the jump from tier 2 to tier 1.

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you're not wrong but there's no way 5 different teams manage to jump like that in the same tournament without bad quals systems

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zeek

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Nah, that 2k from the wall in a 4v4 at 11-12 icebox was starxo life round.

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Who let the flop qual to reykjavik

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eg needs to depend on other teams to qual to playoffs

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Watch up lil bro

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ashwagandha

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prx 2nd at cph is a better mention than 4th at reykjavik

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gamr

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not really cuz prx was basically already established at copenhgen

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Alpac4

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new game buddy

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this is the epitome of all epitomes of how much context is vital to information

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Maybe because theyve beaten the other teams? Have some respect towards the T2 scene, these guys, along with Apeks and Monte have grinded their ass off and they got rewarded by playing in playoffs. No fluke, no cheat, no luck, no bad teams, no chokes, just big-ass mentality, a LOT of grinding and good strats. GL lost to a roster with one of the best players ever, 2 3-time major winners, an 1-time major winning IGL and an rising star, who also has been in a semifinal of a Major before AND the best coach that CSGO ever had. Its like Southampton losing in the CL final to Real Madrid. Its what everyone expected to happen, the young team crumbling under the pressure and the old guard with their experience and with the crowd behind them proving that they can win the major again under a new banner.

There isnt really a big gap anymore in CS. Something that hopefully will happen aswell for Valorant. I wanna see teams like MOUZ or Apeks challenge for Champs aswell, it would be sooo freakin cool.

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Monte have grinded their ass off and they got rewarded by playing in playoffs. No fluke, no cheat,

they literally have Woro2k & DemQQ on the team

def hacking LMAO

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CS is just more competitive.

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ice3

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Today yes, but the Val esport scene is still very young compared to the CS scene, CS has been existing for over 20 years now. I hope to see some smaller teams making big runs to tourneys(and they already happened, ZETA, KRU, X10, Guard f.e.)

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koromast

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bro why everyone forget my nuturn boys

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V0sotros

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unfortunately, it happened in a mickey mouse tournament with a shit format

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koromast

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it had a lower bracket at least

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V0sotros

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no group stage tho, and the skill level of this tournament is so far even from just Berlin it's insane

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:skull:

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TheHowling02

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Rent free as always. No one ever cares about valorant in the csgo community and yet you guys cant seem to shut up about it. Actually making it embarrassing to be a val fan.

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firefirefirefire

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No one ever cares about Valorant in the csgo community

lmfao you cant be serious

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TheHowling02

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I mean i have never seen a valorant thread on hltv, then again im not chronically online so could have missed them.

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Pink_Maldito

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Of course you dont see them. Because Val threads are fucking banned on hltv.

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You literally came here just for confirmation bias from people calling bullshit of CS, but when a guy talks back you act like people here don't make those kind of topics about cs in every single grand tournament.

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Fayt

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''No one ever cares about valorant in the csgo community'' vlr.gg is the only source of val content that talks about csgo directly and 80% of the time is someone making a thread comparing and saying how much cs is better and shitting on val. now CSGO fans are always on twitter, twitch or reddit (not on hltv because they ban val threads lol) saying something negative or shitting on the game whenever they can, val has a whole mansion in rent inside csgo fans head not the other way around i fear.

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Same thing for dota and lol. valve fanboys are obsessed.

just saw this for example https://twitter.com/pudgerro/status/1660262262097993728

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TheHowling02

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Are you crying about someone posting "common valve win" hahahahaha. Oh no someone likes valve what will we do? How could they? Your brain needs oxygen my guy.

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TheHowling02

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Lmao i admit i dont spend enough time on twitter to tell you your wrong but there is no way its "the other way round". Your literally writing this in a thread shiting on csgo you cant play the fucking victim hahahaha. Bitch please we get 5 threads a day talking about how "csgo is a joke" in vlr. Counter strike is so rent free its hilarious. Maybe the cs fans r doing the same (not in my experience but i dont use twitter cos i value my mental) but its time to stop being a fucking pussy and grow up. Enjoying a game doesnt mean you have to undermine every other game you insecure children. God damn how can you act so fucking righteous when your doing the EXACT same.

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oh yeah, you're so adult, the franchise that i played since i was 7 is rent free in my head. You cant fool me brother go back to suck some cs fan dick in hltv, talking about growing up when you're on a val website. Is these threads ''csgo is a joke'' in the room with us now?. ''i am smart i value my mental health'' bro you have 4 stars in vlr.gg.

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TheHowling02

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Lmao thanks for making 0 points. I personally dont follow cs esports that much. I prefer valorant cos its new and fresh. Just sick of seing all these threads acting like cs is a dead games and a dead esports. If it wasnt for it we would be here. If it wasnt for counter strike source i wouldnt be playing valorant. Trying to descelate now to try and understand what your actually trying to say.

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I make 0 points for people that have less than 1 braincells, sick of what threads? the only threads this site does about csgo is numbers and val numbers when theres a major, everyone here has at least some kind of respect for cs and knows the impact of the game, its the insecure fans of both communitys but especially the CS ones, dont act clueless when im literally explaning the situation that you ''supposedly'' dont know much about.

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Ok well we must be using a different site. We are literally on a thread rn that im talking about but ok, goodbye, goodnight and have a great successful life.

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Fayt

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Nice ditch, drink water and eat fruit, have a good week!

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Loud won champions my dog

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makes a great argument against franchising

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Here we go again...