IGL debate | VLR.gg

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Shownu

FNS and Saadhak makes his 'team better'

FNS without crashies, Victor and Chet:

https://www.vlr.gg/1095/together-we-are-terrific-vs-sentinels-pulse-invitational-playoffs-cf

Saadhak without Less, Aspas and pAncada:

https://www.vlr.gg/51281/team-vikings-vs-team-secret-valorant-champions-decider-c

Boaster without Leo, Alfa and Chronicle

https://www.vlr.gg/19089/sentinels-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-gf

The End.

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blud pulled up with the prehistoric age stats

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Shownu

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Gotta use the facts well otherwise people might make you believe fraudulent agendas.

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CremeOnToast

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U tried lil bro but my argument makes sense and urs is dated and stupid asf

https://www.vlr.gg/214339/botster-fraud

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Shownu

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Stick to baiting, eventually you'll get your 4 stars.

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DIEM

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0 stars while baiting 💀

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TrialRunnr

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Shownu detected, opinion rejected

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Hey that's my line

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Cresp

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Wow so dominant shownu what an alpha

#5

AKIRA1988

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Very old/irrelevant games. I agree support players are not credited enough, but this is not great proof of the concept that an IGL needs good support

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wait what they all lost?

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PandaZ

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You forgot to mention that in that Fnatic match he still had derke and got shit on lmfao

#10

Shownu

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Saadhak had Sacy why did he not win a map?

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PandaZ

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are you seriously comparing having your star DUELIST to an INITIATOR? the delusion lol

#16

Shownu

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Is he not a future World Champion? Or we only reserving the title to fit our arguments

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PandaZ

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Oh my bad I didn’t know we were traveling back to present time just so to “fit our arguments.” Is Derke not one of the most consistent duelists to date who also happened to win LOCK//IN? Or is LOCK//IN just a Mickey Mouse tournament?

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Shownu

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No IGL won with one player 🤣🤣🤣 why you malding for.

#22

PandaZ

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Unlucky you couldn’t win the argument so you had make yourself believe that I’m malding lol

#25

Shownu

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You are crying that Boaster has Derke but would happily be ignorant about Saadhak losing with Sacy who was the best initiator last year. Derke and Sacy improved drastically and won their respective trophies but it took more than those two and their igl.

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gamr

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Yeah, good thing Boaster had 3 good players not named Derke and still failed

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TrialRunnr

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Three of the players on Fns team are literally retired, Fnatic masters 2 team looks like a superteam in front of it.

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Shownu

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But that's not the argument. Why is he not making them play better?

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TrialRunnr

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holy fk, are you stupid or do you pretend to be stupid?

#14

yaiima0

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Stopped reading at Shownu, botster is a fraud deal with it

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Yistyy

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What in the cherry picking is this...

#23

Sprouts

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lmao

#24

owner

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Nt but boaster always gets carried by good players
Definition of a Fraud IGL

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Vkay47

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Holayyy, People here are so fkin stupid

#28

BEHEMOTH

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Why are Americas talking ? FNS and Sadhaak are in the GOAT igl debate not because they are that good compared to others but because they are the only competent ones in your tier 2 region lmao. EMEA had multiple teams with different IGLs winning different trophies, the focus was never on one of them. EMEA has always been the region about strats and protocols , Americas is all aim no brain and even then there are teams in EMEA that have better aimers.

I am not a big Boaster fan but clowns here are forgetting that making a new team work is way more difficult than making a core work. Especially when you had this core for more than a year. Fnatic did well to decent with almost all its iterations. Just having good players doesn't necessarily means it will directly convert into results, it takes prep and that comeback against LOUD is good example of that. Americas should worry about getting a trophy this year coz Boaster might equal the tally of their entire region combined lmaoo

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dejikke

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idc EG is gonna win it all this year

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Allat

#31

weakest_marved_enjoyer

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FNC literally has top 3 players at all of their roles
you dont need a mastermind igl to win with that team

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BEHEMOTH

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Must have never watched any competitive sports coz that's not how it happens. Brooklyn Nets had multiple champions and MVPs in their team yet they never saw any success in NBA playoffs. Mourinho who won CL with the likes of Inter and Porto couldn't win one with the Galacticos. Best players ≠ Trophies or success in general.

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weakest_marved_enjoyer

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bro said the nets as if they didnt have kyrie out for the bucks series and harden was playing through an injury. they still went to 7 games against the fucking champs that year so wtf are you talking about you goofball. and the years after that kyrie just didnt play so dont use that shit ass argument like i dont watch sports. unfortunately these gamers dont have to worry about injuries like that

#32

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FNATIC had to assemble the avengers just so Boaster could do his k-pop dance on stage
Chaadhak brought two rookies to a grand finals and Fenis had to integrate both s0m and Ardiis into Optic’s system

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BEHEMOTH

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That integration into Optic system had people calling Ardiis( who btw had good stats on almost all of his previous teams) a Chamber abuser. That integration was so bad that they had to go back to their comfort picks to win matches.

#33

Asuna_Yuuki

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Unfair comparison.

SEN was a superteam back then

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Nachtel

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An engine on a car without wheels is useless by itself, but shows its irreplaceable value once it acquires them

#38

BrotherMan

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You must be doing it on purpose this point no?? There's no way you're this braindead

#39

Karmine_Org_WhispeR

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Bro you suck boaster more than yinsu does