Why NA GC looks so much better than EMEA GC

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I think this could directly be correlated to the availability is tier 2/3 tournaments and high-talent teams willing to scrim GC teams. Both of these are significantly more common in NA, so it makes sense that with the more frequent better practice, the GC teams there have improved a lot in comparison to the EMEA teams. There are even partnered teams scrimming GC teams in NA. EMEA really need to start investing in their GC scene.

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V1 going crazy in scrims rn ngl

#3

ambo69

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genuinely better than some challengers and regionals teams

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proof?

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Plat chat interviewed meL

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gonna need more than that lol

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V1 has beaten multiple franchised teams in prac

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ash_knuckles

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#9 show me something anything

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bro, meL went on platchat and lied about their scrim results for the sole purpose of gaining clout and attention that will literally do nothing for them and could actually be detrimental to their long term goals if it came out as a lie

heres the translation: V1 beat franchised teams or meL is a huge fucking liar

oh and all her teammates would be complicit in the same lie

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nah chill i'm a v1 fan myself lol. she said "we're scrimming challengers and franchised teams and winning some of these scrims" and that is way too vague a statement to deduce anything from. Simply means they're doing well in scrims. which is cool. doesn't mean #3, still very cool tho.

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How is GC emea bad when g2 literally won champs

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ambo69

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believe it of not but things change over time

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Yistyy

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Well I don't mind seeing eu struggling that's for sure

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acend won champs and look where they are now

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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atleast acend still exists in comparison to optic fpx gambit 💔💔

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Yistyy

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FPX still exists too lil bro

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Emea is heavily invested into their GC scene, there are so many organisation involved already.
There is even a tier 2 EMEA GC scene that's forming under the new tier 1 scene.

If anything the EMEA game changers scene is the healthiest right now.
You could argue that version1 might be the best game changers team but that's not a guarantee.

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ambo69

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Na has had a GC "tier 2" for almost year now. Watch other regions before claiming one scene is the "healthiest"

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The way the EMEA game changers system is setup is helping the scene so much.
The new format is gaining more interest from organisations, having a short regular season with more games is great.

I'm just simply comparing the amount of organisations involved in each region.
A large amount of organisations willing to support GC players will always help to improve the competition.

I've watched some NA game changers games, yes you have your juggernauts like v1, xset, sr, complexity.
However, outside of the "big 8" there's a handful of interesting players but not too much else.

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ambo69

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NA GC has regular monthly tier 2 GC tournaments, there is NOTHING like that in EMEA, and you can claim that NA doesn't have any talent out of the top few teams, but fluorescent is proof that players can rise into the main stage of NA GC

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There are also regular monthly t2 circuits in EMEA, just because it's not on VLR does not mean it doesn't exist.
There's Project V for Dach players, Birds of Prey that's now transitioned into a tournament for northern players.
The REBELS series for Turkish players and a few more tournaments that exist.

I don't understand your point about florescent?
I claimed there weren't that many strong teams outside of the "Big 8" but there are some talented individuals still unsigned.
I mean she was also on a top 5 North American game changers team in 2022 anyway, at least this is backed up by circuit points.

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yawnster

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Typical Na fans overhyping their teams just to get shit on. Surely V1 don't end up like C9 this time right🥴?

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ambo69

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C9 imploded leading up to the LAN, that's a well-known fact, listen to any of the interviews the players did, also G2 BARELY beat a team without a coach

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yawnster

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And who's fault is that? Maybe NA should learn to have some decorum and stop trying to start twitter drama every other day 🗿

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yawnster

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Scratch that, keep the drama alive. Its the only thing NA is good at 😹

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ambo69

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mad that NA GC has more personality than EMEA franchising?

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Drama = Better personality 😹😹
Average Am*rican take

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for all we know g2 could be scrimming t1 teams as well tho. they don't participate in any co-ed tourneys (hardly any in emea too jesus) so we don't really have any data to prove that v1>>>, except arbitrary shit.

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Ambo69 how are you?

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ambo69

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I am doing great brother! Worked out and went food shopping today. Have you touched some grass today? If not, make sure you do it really makes the day seem brighter

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Cresp

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I havent touched grass today! My gym and workplace are indoors! But thank you for asking, I might touch grass later on campus though I’ll keep you updated!

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Based on? Do not get your point at all
GC teams in EMEA frequently scrim GC teams. And I must say EMEA circuit is 100 times better than the NA one with the regular league. Absolutely all rosters picked up by good orgs.
Do not understand what you base your take to say the NA one looks better?

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EMEAstan

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NA still got deleted by G2 in champions though, so your opinion doesn't really matter

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ambo69

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"I dont watch GC games that visibly show skill disparity"