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gatekeeping is real

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#1
kskm

none of ur favorite "stars" - yay, aspas,fns,derke,tenz etc etc are a god's gift. ALOT of talented folks can achieve what they have given the right environment and a bit of luck. All these pros/streamers praying for runi/jakee to fail is a sign that these guys try to gatekeep the scene by hyping themselves or they get exposed as frauds.

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Mkin11
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give names

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kskm
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of who? streamers and pros? watch their match with EG - 1st map 1st half - where the crew of sinatraa said this might be the last match of runi/jakee, "im down to keep xeppa,zellsis,leaf and let others go" "wait i havent even seen jakee in radiant lobbies that means he is not even radiant" -- people were READY to pounce to on these kids the first map they lose.

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dreww_
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maybe just don’t watch the sexual assaulter idk

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zardinez
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Based

#19
Supr3meGucci
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Truth: Valorant skill ceiling is so low, anyone can be good

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Ullyr
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there's so many more talents in valorant that would replace most of these tier 1 pros in a year or two.

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Kkonakorner
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thats exactly the point

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Ullyr
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you don't get it lol no one reached any skill ceiling in this game yet. team still inconcsistent af with some teams having legit players that shouldn't be in tier 1 back then ppl calling teams like SEN best in the game. Sure but that was for their time, the level of competition was so bad back then. In 5 years level will get even higher and ppl look back to now saying how bad the level was. Its like League of legends before SKT dominated.

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Kkonakorner
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yeah thats the thing with every game lol,what does that have to do with the individual skill ceiling being low

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Ullyr
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so you admit skill ceiling hasn't been reach yet? so you agree with me. How is skill ceiling low when this game gets so many new agents and maps?

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Kkonakorner
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ofcourse not,but its just a fact its easy to shoot at this game so idk what that has to do with skill ceiling,any level 10 cs player can climb to radiant with just basic knowledge of the game
you have people like dasnerth who manage to stay in top 100 radiant with a fucking controller and only shotguns

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Ullyr
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bro you're dumb lol game is more than shooting. Put any cs player that haven't play valorant in and they get owned by utility. Just cause its easy to get into doesn't mean its easy to master. Rank play is just that shooting but the level between rank and pros is so hugely different. The fact that is more than shooting means that its so much harder to remain at the top and the ceiling gets higher every update. Look at the one tricks in this game they get exposed real quick.

The fact dasnerth can be top of radiant means the game is more than just shooting, need insanely high indivdual game sense and iq to play like that. If its so easy why he the only one that can do that with judge at radiant.

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MourninggStarr
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i mean what can you expect from sinatraa and his clones?? they HAVE to be edgy for their audience 😂

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xD1LL4N
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man snuck FNS in there and act like we didn't notice

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yaiima0
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FNS is a goat igl wym?

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xD1LL4N
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the rest are all mechanical gods and then their is fns...

i feel like FNS doesn't belong in the list as he is a goat tier igl in a scene where there is only a small hand full

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manca
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So wouldnt that make him more valuable than any other name on the list if igls are way harder to come by

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xD1LL4N
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yes 100%

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kskm
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goat tier IGL because of the opportunities he got + abit of luck. I aint questioning the fact that he took those opportunities + worked hard to get there. I am talking about gatekeeping and saying nobody can achieve what he has - which is not true. Gatekeeping is exactly that.

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lilcheese
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yea Goofiest of all time

#14
PoonRaccoon
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hes doing pretty well now honestly. Since lockin his aim has been improved

#16
xD1LL4N
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it wasn't a dig. He is not as replacable like the rest in this list

#4
nerdsabkabaap
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True

#7
trembolonaRage
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That’s why mwzera is undoubtedly the most talented player to ever play the game

Dude have been performing amazingly since 2020, with different class of agents, different IGLs, different teams with several different people

You realize how insane this is?

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Abydaby
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can you bring me solid evidence? like some stats idk

#24
cioccolat
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KKKKKKK DUDE DONT HE WILL PULL THE DEATHMATCH STATS MAN

#12
TwentySeven
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you realize how insane you sound when ur this delusion?

#23
LionelMessi
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You realize how insane this is? kkkkkkkkkkk bagre de mais memewzera

#25
Itsover
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You got me laughing hysterically in the middle of the night, gj my man trembo

#27
morpheus429
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STATS

#28
WinterZ
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!stats

#31
unknown_trash
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Trembo we need updated stats to admire the goat mwzera ad he is now. Please bring updated stats

#13
Ullyr
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I mean i don't like how ppl call players tier 3 when its a relatively new esports. There's players that have a lot of unrefined talents that could perform very well with good coach and staff. MCE literally made the guard with 4 unknown players ... + saya from OW

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kskm
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that is true. it is annoying to see some ex-pro streamers having this god complex and talking about how good they are - when in reality alot of talented folks can achieve what they have - even if they are collegiate. I guess gatekeeping is to keep themselves relevant and keep the streamer $$ flowing

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Rokun
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That's why no one signs them because they're to cocky but can't actually provide the value they hype themselves for. They'll just ruin the team with their attitude and just play for stats to justify why they should be kept.

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SENTINELA_SACY_FAN
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🫵🤡

#30
meadows
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True, that is why something is my goat

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SENTINELA_SACY_FAN
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🫵🤡

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