Sentinels BUFF??

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PlugHero

Yo not a big analyst, but Instead of nerfing KJ. I guess the other sentinels need to be buffed.
For Cypher probably giving damage when the trip is hit should help.
Chamber is far from the meta. He's still good in some ways but just doesn't suit anymore
Would love to hear your take!

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yes no need to nerf sentinel, sentinels make the game interesting to play

#3

I_am_from_the_future

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-dephh would be a really good Sentinels BUFF imo, will balance all the other sentinels pretty well.

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Cypher does not need a buff for crying out loud, his pick rate is fine
Same goes for Sage
The problem with the sentinel class is that there's just not enough options, that's it

Stop it already

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lets see sentinel pickrates in challengers na (kj - cypher - sage - chamber)
ascent: 81% - 6% - 3% - 0%
haven: 74% - 24% - 0% - 0%
pearl: 82% - 12% - 0% - 0%
lotus: 89% - 11% - 0% - 4%
fracture: 14% - 82% - 5% - 0%
split: 6% - 63% - 56% - 6%
icebox: 100% - 0% - 75% - 0%

killjoy is the preferred sentinel on 5 maps in the pool by a ridiculously large margin

cypher has a high pickrate on fracture and a decent pickrate on split losing his role to killjoy by a massive margin on every other map in the pool

sage has a high pickrate on icebox and a decent pickrate on split while not getting picked once on 3 maps in the active pool and having a single digit % pickrate on the two remaining maps in the pool

chamber is not picked at all on 5 maps and has a single digit % pickrate on the two remaining maps in the pool

the pacific league has not once touched chamber on any map, sage has an 8% overall pickrate, cypher has a 13% overall pickrate, and killjoy has a 75% overall pickrate

the ema league is a little more balanced but killjoy still leads at 47% overall, cypher has a 32% overall pickrate, sage has a 24% overall pickrate, and chamber once again has not been picked a single time

either u pulled ur info out of ur ass or ur just too ignorant to read the stats before talking abt them
cyphers pick rate is not fine
sages pick rate is not fine
and its nowhere near close to being fine
the sentinel class has 4 options and only 1 is being used frequently on more than 2 out of the 7 maps

so now tell me
are the pickrates fine?
are there not enough options?
or do u need to buff cypher? and chamber? and possibly sage too?

stop it already

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JustEnjoying

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bro really pulled out the receipts

#11

Flumplestiltski

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Not reading all dat.

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HavocWEEB

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wasnt a reply to u theres no reason for u to read it

#13

Roid

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Your percentage doesn't add up😕

#20

Drq

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teams can run multiple sentinels in a comp

#23

HavocWEEB

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its stats from vlr.gg
also what are u trying to add up? theres no math needed to understand what i wrote

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Do you think NA challengers represents the entire game?
Do you think the map rotation might have something to do with KJ's current pickrate?
Do you think Cypher having a 20-30% pickrate is somehow bad despite the fact that there are 21 agents in the game?
Do you think sentinels are the only class in the entire game with an agent that has a less than 10% pickrate?

Surely you're not just mad about Cypher's EMEA pickrate just because he's not higher than Killjoy even though he's only like 15% lower than her right now

Edit: now only 8% lower, but I'm sure this is still imbalanced to you isn't it?

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HavocWEEB

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na challengers doesnt represent the entire game thats why i have stats for emea league and pacific league too??????
the map rotation is a big part of why kjs pick rate is so high so u buff cypher to make him viable on more maps????????
cyphers pickrate at 20-30% is bad cuz one sentinel is much higher than all the others, u cant compare his pickrate to agents of a different role that would take up a different spot in the team comp???????
sentinels arent the only agents that dont have balanced pickrates thats why other roles need some balance changes too

one region doesnt represent the whole world?????? thats why when hes a little bit higher in emea but much higher in all the other regions theres an issue?????? if u base ur decisions on emea stats only ur gonna be very wrong

#17

rafter

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You're incoherent

#18

HavocWEEB

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bros on a 3rd grade reading level

#19

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Are you ok? What's with all the question marks

#21

HavocWEEB

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it indicates confusion
im confused cuz what hes saying is incredibly dumb
its common to use multiple questions marks when texting to show that ur confused
u must be 30+ years old
u could take a look at urban dictionary to keep up with the slang kids use in this decade

#22

Flumplestiltski

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Someone didn't get enough attention from mommy and daddy

#25

HavocWEEB

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u reply to a discussion between me and someone else with insults but wont take part in the actual discussion?
opened vlr just to be a dick to ppl
and im the one who doesnt get enough attention?

#29

Flumplestiltski

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Insults? Go back and read who insulted who first. If you took my first comment negatively I think you might be projecting your insecurities little guy.

#30

HavocWEEB

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u did first lol

edit: If you took my first comment negatively I think you might be projecting your insecurities little guy, i just wanted to help u understand slang

continue thread →

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rafter

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Edit: my bad, didn't mean to reply to you

continue thread →

#26

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The anger issues are showing🤣

#28

HavocWEEB

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grrrrr

#5

Wronghand

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Give cypher an extra trip so that he can have more selfish trips for himself while still being useful to hold space for others

Give chamber his universal trip back. That will do wonders for him over killjoy.

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Chamber having a universal trip is just going to carve into Cypher's pickrate not Killjoy's but okay
Chamber shouldn't have universal presence anyway since the rest of his kit is so aggressive and Cypher's isn't in comparison

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Cresp

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Make cyphers cam be able to break itself with right click and act as a one ping sova dart, it wont even buff him i just think that could be cool.

#16

donut2612

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i dont think riot wants sentinel agents to be good

#27

LouBag

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Riot is going to hold off on balancing the agents because the next one is a sentinel.

We will probably see a chunk of KJ usage drop off.

It’s sign of good balance if agents have 2 good maps.

The only changes really needed is a rework or buff to chamber (give him back 2 trips.)

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Lmao