BR and Latam come

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sheahhhh

Do you think any of the BR Latam ascension teams can take a map off G2, m80, Guard or nah? I just don't see any talent which i would consider T1

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they're about equal

FaZe, on the other hand, will win ascension without dropping a map

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faze drop maps to turtle troops what makes you think they can sweep the competition

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limit testing

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g2 clears babybay

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a map? yes, a bo3? idk i'm not seeing tier2 br but yea

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Marshal_D_Teach

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I unblocked to see the message: The Union and Oddik are pretty good. But I think they need a couple of bootcamps to win ascension. Havoc and Tisora are insane. 00Nation is a good team too. But their growth started later. B4rtin is one of the smartest players in our t2. I think he has a bright future.

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T2 Americas can scrim with t1 teams. So they’re already ahead but as pancada said in the last podcast he was on. Loud run was amazing bc they bootcamp in europe. So if a t2 team from BR/Latam eant to take down thoses NA-EMEA teams a bc is must

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sheahhhh

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They won't be playing emea teams just wanted to know who the best teams from br and latam are

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Im tired of NA fans thinking they are tier 1... they were in the first year of competitive valorant, but they aren't anymore

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sheahhhh

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Bruh im saying a lot of t1 NA talent got left in t2, but i don't see this effect happening in the other regions

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hekzy

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Actually like almost every player who is in NA franchising were all in NA VCT champions last year.

Whereas EMEA is like 38/60.....

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I think the latam tier 2 is not in the level of Brazil and na. I think Brazil and na are in the same level

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i really dont know
t2 seems pretty bad all over the place

there is a good talented team (the union)
an experienced igl (ntk)
a crazy ranke demon duelist (havocc)
good players with xp (raafa guuh)
and another young demon (pancc)

but idk if they can do it

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Vii79

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Raafa is the IGL bro

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Skuul13

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sorry to break it to you
but he is not

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Vii79

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So why is his twitter written:

VALORANT IGL for @theuniongg

💀

https://twitter.com/raafacsgo?s=09

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KCNTV

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I strongly believe top 2 ( Can be 9Z, INF, AK or MOX) LAS can be on par with NA. BR is really unstable rn, so i doubt they will be competitive. The only team that has impressed me most from latin america north is 6K with the mix between previous exolos and fresht is a really good flex.

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what do u think of fusion?

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fusion was the third team in latam, after kru and leviathan, i thought that with the changes it would be a very strong team capable of ascending but after the preseason and their match against six karma they disappointed me, i'm sad, my latam region north will never have a franchise team :(

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KCNTV

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fusion does not look good rn, too much overpeek, some comps that people are not confortable on or underperforming. His game vs 5k looked like a pug team. I still think they have some really good aimers, in the right day they can win anyone, but they need to clean their trades and the time to peek, also work on some comps and macros.

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they made massive changes. kam1kaze's style (new head coach) is way different from what they were doing. I hope they find their way, cuz at the moment it's not working at all :(

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if you take in count 6k its Ex-xolos core with jow which is probably the best lat-nor initiator rn and freshT which is pretty new and will only improve with the time i think they are our hope.
19es and xolos also seems well but i dont know woddy and pxs are cracked ofc but dobsha and peloncito arent convincing me yet and the controller "twopotz" its just a duelist who swapped to controller so i think he´ll be fine on aim but we´ll see how he does on other terms, and about 19 esports they seemed very disciplined on pre-season winning the whole thing and now they got stomped by skull cracker.
And at the end we got reta and skc which are good but i think they still lack something dont know if they are the weakest link but they arent the top contenders imo. no comments on fusion, they seem bad and dcop gave statements of kam1 or someone not wanting him on the team anymore and he was the IGL so i guess its just going to be a disaster from now on.

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Havoc is really strong

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Pulpo

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Not rly, at least not from latam. Latam t2 teams are at a rly low level rn and I don't see how this will improve with t2 na teams scrimming with t1 americas teams. Even Krü would have a hard time beating some t2 na teams and they would trash any t2 latam team.

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i forgot that every T1 latam and br team are now in the us so all T2 teams have is scrimming with each other. At least latam north is closer to the us so its at least possible but BR and latam south are doomed

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Watch: https://www.vlr.gg/167052/the-union-vs-tropicaos-challengers-league-brazil-split-1-w7

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idk about latam but if br teams can work their psychologic issues and bootcamp on EU before the tournament, I can see they taking a series or even winning the even if they can build momentum, the talent is there, the aim is there, the strats are there, but if the mental game is weak... we all know what happens

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Tf you mean “I don’t see any talent I’d consider T1”? You haven’t seen any talent at all cause you haven’t watched anything, same way you wouldn’t think shit of less aspas Cauanzin and pancada before they joined Loud

But to answer your question yeah they absolutely can take maps against NA and the matches won’t be nearly as one sided as you think, but even then NA are still the heavy favorites especially if you consider that they have 10 franchised teams to scrim while latam has none

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sheahhhh

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LmaooooI knew about cuanzin before Loud but nt
NA in my eyes are the favorites because there are players in t2 NA which could fill in for t1 and do just as good if not better in some situations

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BR have players in T2 that could fill for T1 too. Remember, they were all playing in the same league before. Tuyz old team is still a thing, and they almost went to 2022 champions with some players that are still there showing some real skills. How is that not T1 material?

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Vii79

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The Union, Red Canids and Oddik look pretty decent. I believe that what Brazil needs is one or two Orgs that take the best players and assemble a super team

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Shev

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honestly, no! BR teams looks a little better than last year, but have a feeling that teams don't have good strategies yet

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Funozito

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idk about LATAM, but i've been watching NA and BR tier 2 games a lot. I think they are pretty even. If we get the top BR teams like The Union and Oddik, i think they have a solid chance of taking that spot.