50% chances of a team becoming the first ever team in Valorant history to win 2 international trophies
50% chances of a team becoming the first ever team in Valorant history to win 2 international trophies
and Loud changed 2 players while Navi changed 1. I'd argue it'd be more legit Navi counting as winning 2 trophies than Loud.
navi changed 1 for another player who won a title, if they won then all their players would be 2x champs - more or less as legit as it gets
How so? The winner of Copenhagen last yr is officially listed as FPX, not NAVI
U can cope as much u want but rn, NAVI is tourniless ๐น๐น๐น
ange1, shao, suygetsu, zyppan, and doombros won copenhagen
cned also won champs 2021
so if i made an org and picked up zombs, ardiis, bonecold, kiles, and starxo
and won a tourney, would we also be at the same lvl?
Well my main basis is the org, not the roster.
U go to LOUD hq, there'll be 2 trophies
U go to NAVI hg, there'll only be 1
Yes it does 4 players + coach, literally kept more players than LOUD for example
Because he won that separately and I understand that's different. You can't get 5 players who won trophies with 5 different teams and then when they win a trophy say it's the teams second win. cned would still have 2 international wins tho, just with 2 different teams
There's 4 event winner + a coach in NAVI
There's 3 event winners in LOUD
They changed the name so it doesn't count?
the players don't matter
team that matters
LOUD can change 5 players if they wants, if they wins it counts
I think like this and that makes sense to me
tbf in any other sport you would simply say that the org had won. Real Madrid won the champions league many times, with different rosters, but each time its a Real Madrid win. If you specify it as "2 rosters could be the first to win two international lans", that would be more accurate
Well in football you count both, how many champion Madrid had, but also how many champions for example midrib has. And I think the fact that Valorant is a 5 player esport makes the importance of your teammates matter a lot more, plus every narrative has to be built from 0 there's no previous history. I think all that creates a new category to account for which is the core of players imo. Idk it's just what makes more sense to me
there is literally less players there that were present for the first trophy win. orgs mean nothing, it's the players that count in this situation.
but if you want to record all the champion teams, you will have to write both teams differently
I'm looking at it from this angle
bro teams donโt matter just follow players ๐ fnatic has trophy winners too, only drx has a full team of non previous winners