Just realized something

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Mortadelo

50% chances of a team becoming the first ever team in Valorant history to win 2 international trophies

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moatz

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How? It's literally just LOUD

Only 25%

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international trophies

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He not counting on FPX coz they changed org.

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bonkashi

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and Loud changed 2 players while Navi changed 1. I'd argue it'd be more legit Navi counting as winning 2 trophies than Loud.

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navi changed 1 for another player who won a title, if they won then all their players would be 2x champs - more or less as legit as it gets

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NAVI

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moatz

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Different org. Plus diff roster considering cNed replaced ardiis

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RickyIndian

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then how are you counting loud when they lost more players than FPX?

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He just wants to be annoying

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moatz

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How so? The winner of Copenhagen last yr is officially listed as FPX, not NAVI
U can cope as much u want but rn, NAVI is tourniless 😹😹😹

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Alright China is the first ever Asian region to win a trophy, congrats

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moatz

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Alr I'm down for that. Congrats China :)

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RickyIndian

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ange1, shao, suygetsu, zyppan, and doombros won copenhagen

cned also won champs 2021

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moatz

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so if i made an org and picked up zombs, ardiis, bonecold, kiles, and starxo
and won a tourney, would we also be at the same lvl?

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RickyIndian

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i mean they would be the first players to have multiple championships

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moatz

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Well my main basis is the org, not the roster.
U go to LOUD hq, there'll be 2 trophies
U go to NAVI hg, there'll only be 1

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Mortadelo

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team ≠ org

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good thing we dont care about ur opinion

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moatz

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nobody cares abt ur opinion either lil vro 😹😹😹

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Zeron

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yea LOUD or NAVI

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Dokka

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and a 50% chance that stax or boaster finally gets their trophies

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Mortadelo

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Actually all possible outcomes are such a W rn

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i dont think navi counts

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Mortadelo

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Yes it does 4 players + coach, literally kept more players than LOUD for example

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bro cned became world champion why don't you count him

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Mortadelo

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Because he won that separately and I understand that's different. You can't get 5 players who won trophies with 5 different teams and then when they win a trophy say it's the teams second win. cned would still have 2 international wins tho, just with 2 different teams

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u can't count NAVI my friend sry

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Mortadelo

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There's 4 event winner + a coach in NAVI
There's 3 event winners in LOUD

They changed the name so it doesn't count?

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Gutssz

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the players don't matter
team that matters
LOUD can change 5 players if they wants, if they wins it counts

I think like this and that makes sense to me

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I'm sorry but I don't agree, it's the players who win not the org

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tbf in any other sport you would simply say that the org had won. Real Madrid won the champions league many times, with different rosters, but each time its a Real Madrid win. If you specify it as "2 rosters could be the first to win two international lans", that would be more accurate

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Well in football you count both, how many champion Madrid had, but also how many champions for example midrib has. And I think the fact that Valorant is a 5 player esport makes the importance of your teammates matter a lot more, plus every narrative has to be built from 0 there's no previous history. I think all that creates a new category to account for which is the core of players imo. Idk it's just what makes more sense to me

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there is literally less players there that were present for the first trophy win. orgs mean nothing, it's the players that count in this situation.

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Gutssz

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but if you want to record all the champion teams, you will have to write both teams differently
I'm looking at it from this angle

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Then according to that logic. China has an international event win?

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what a question right? you always surprise me

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Mortadelo

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Do I?xD Yk it's always cool with you tho ;)

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How? Didnt he mention team?

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bro teams don’t matter just follow players 😈 fnatic has trophy winners too, only drx has a full team of non previous winners

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Mortadelo

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What I use to judge which team has won is if the core of players (3 players) have won a trophy together, doesn't matter the org

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i like that strategy