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Have you ever wondered how many football/basketball players had huge problems with their ex-girlfriends (including rape accusations) but still remained on teams and lived happy lives?
Sinatraa isn't getting kicked. If he was a mediocre/bad player then Sentinels maybe would consider going for someone else. But he is the 2nd best on the lineup after Sick.
https://youtu.be/5AgMEz56CSo?t=266
"No" Doesn't always means "no". That explains perfectly. The link is already in the correct time of the video. Just watch this.
She said No like she was moaning on top of him. I mean... If you ever had sex once in your life you know that you have to push or insist in those kinds of "no", or else you will never have sex in your life, woman do this to tease, to make you insist, to not seem to easy, just look at him seriously, get away of him and tell him no in a tone he would understand.
She is complaining of how bad he treated her, he "made" her use IUD, because he refuses to wear a condom... Dude just don't have sex with him them? wtf? Use birth control pills... The dude leaves you crying in the bathroom and goes to sleep, this is not his fault, he didn't care about her and even so you stayed with him, as if you liked playing the victim, he was a shitty boyfriend, but that girl was even shitier for staying with him all this time, despite the way he treated her. After all that, she finally breaks up with him, and then, guess what? WANTS TO GET BACK TOGETHER!! WTF!! THIS GIRL IS MENTAL, HAS NO SELF LOVE, HAS NO PRIDE AND WANTS TO COMPLAIN AND DESTROY A GUY'S CARRER BECAUSE OF HOW BAD SHE ALLOWED HERSELF TO BE TREATED.
The world today is a joke, you can't treat a girl badly, if she doesn't have the courage to brake up you, you are an abuser... No... He didn't like her, treated her the way he wanted, she didn't like that, just break up with him, now you endure a bad relatioship so you can complain of how bad you were treated? c'mon, that's nuts, that's a thing sick people do, people with mental health issues, literally.
CRAZY!! He has been blamed for this girl's insecurity and lack of capacity to break up!! C'mon!! The guy was finding excuses to leaver her, find motives to break up and she just wouldn't let him.
If you ever had sex in your life, sometimes one of the parts just doesn't want it at the begning, but you give a little push and it happens, she can awlays look seriously at him and get the fuck out of him, but sayin 'NooOo" with a fucking baby voice while you are laughing doesn't mean shit, if you are a men and had sex at least once in your life you know girls almost 100% of the time say no at first, just so you can insist. C'mon. Be serious, give him a serious look, she is just riding the guy and saying no, that isn't plausible, this girl is nuts, has no self respect/love, doesn't have a little bit of pride, and is a coward, fearing the breakup. After all that toxic relationship SHE WANTS TO GET BACK WITH HIM? This girl is crazy, I'm not taking any of what she is saying into acount, I'm sorry.
How can you rape someone in the middle of a consensual relation? Are you insane? Instead of saying no with a baby voice, just stop riding him and get the fuck of of him, look at him serious and say something that means shit. "No" with a baby voice is the most heard thing we men listen before actually having consensual sex, it just means to push or insist a bit, if you never push a "no" in your life you will never have sex man.
No, you’ve got it all wrong, and you sound completely horrible. “No” does not mean to push harder. That’s disgusting. “No” means no - the tone doesn’t matter. This is elementary. Real “men” don’t hear “No” before sex. They hear “No” before respectfully backing down and, idk, NOT raping someone.
I’ve never heard “No” before sex. Hopefully some other men will speak up to show you it’s common. I have heard “No” before, though, even with my GF. Sometimes you’re not in the mood. It’s absolutely possible to rape someone in a relationship.
Well bud, she clearly said differently. Not all women are the same. The video was not the only time it happened. Your constant categorization and stereotypes are typical of a misogynistic woman hater.
You’re in the wrong here. Maybe you will understand one day. Also, stop upvoting your own comments. That’s sad.
https://youtu.be/5AgMEz56CSo?t=266
Just watch this and notice how idiot you are. It's in the fucking correct time of the video. You don't have to watch it all, althugh it would be good to watch it all.
Here’s the thing. You’re passionate, I’m passionate, I doubt we change each other’s minds. I wish I could, but rape is a difficult subject. My viewpoint was more similar to yours at one point, but then I met my wonderful girlfriend who happens to be a rape victim. I’ve heard almost all of the gruesome details through the years I’ve known her (I’m sure she will never tell me or anybody everything, and that’s fine. Some things you take to the grave with you). That’s all the “education” I need about rape.
I’m ashamed to say that I was bitter about how she handled it and hid it from me. It took months to even begin to wrap my head around it, but I eventually became comfortable with it. Some things we will never understand. Why don’t rape victim go to the authorities for help earlier? We will never get an answer to that, and that’s okay.
You will probably never understand my viewpoint unless someone you love goes through rape. I hope you never have to go through that. In the meantime, try to be more passionate to rape victims.
True. Agreed. The thing is, I don't actually see that as rape. Since I don't think he knew that she actually ment to stop. The dude was laughing as she was in pain, if he knew he is a cartoon villain, c'mon. She should've been more assertive, to let him know, how can you rape someone without even knowing you are? That's nonsense for me.
He said " I only have sex without condoms", she had numerous answers for this.
Ok, so we will have sex without condom and you will pay the abortion or the costs for the kid.
I will not have sex with you them.
I will start on the pill before we have sex
I will use female condom, feel pain, and then blame you.
Guess what she choose?
Read her entire story, don't just listen to the audio. She explains a lot in the story like why she didn't do the things you mentioned and that this wasn't a 1 time thing. On other occasions, she would say no before sex and he would guilt trip her into fucking him anyway. On a specific occasion, she said no, but agreed to kiss him, and then he went farther and farther until they were having sex. Not just that, but he also called her fucking retarded for tweeting about another OW team doing something good. And yes, while it doesn't make sense to either of us, as men, why these people don't just break up or whatever, she explained why in her story. She said she was scarred no one else would love her, that she would be lonely and that she depended on him and loved him. Not only that, but she was probably scared that sinatraa would make up lies and turn his huge following against her and make her even more lonely. People are different and handle situations differently and a lot of people aren't strong enough or can be assertive in a situation like that so stop assuming that everyone can.
In an attempt to educate you:
You’re missing the “original sin” here, if you will. Sinatraa treated her poorly to begin with. It doesn’t matter that she “let it happen.” You spend more time harassing her, rather than acknowledging that, without Sinatraa’s toxicity and rape, none of this would have happened.
You blame the wrong person. You also exhibit a fair amount of woman hatred, which you should really reconsider. It’s not healthy.
I don't understand why everyone is jumping to straight conclusions. One side is saying the girl is talking bullshit, the evidence could be fake, it's her fault, trying to ruin his career, why is she saying all this right before masters etc. They should know It takes a lot of courage to come out and talk about stuff like this, maybe she handled the situation poorly in past but that doesn't take away her right to come forward about it and all this getting spoken after months or years is a normal thing cuz it takes a LOT of time to talk about such things, especially in public. The other side of the same coin holds the people who are immediately saying Sinatraa should be imprisoned, he is a douche in game so he is the same in real life, etc. If all the allegations are true, he definitely deserves to get punished for it no matter what his reasoning or excuse is, but we still haven't heard his take on this topic, and yeah he will probably straight up deny but there is yet to prove her accusations and talk about his side. Whatever the case is I hope people are gonna handle it in a mature way.
https://youtu.be/5AgMEz56CSo?t=266
"No" Doesn't always means "no". That explains perfectly. The link is already in the correct time of the video. Just watch this.
My dude, imma say this simply unless it's predetermined before anything happens that no means some kinky shit no means no. Someone can say no whenever they like and then everything ends. Yes could this situation have been kinky shit maybe but you can't prove that so we have to trust the accuser. Also read my message stop I said ignoring that, everything else still makes him a piece of shit if true
People jumping into conclusions before hearing both sides, people are talking about justice, but we didnt even hear his take, im not defending either in any way, but to say that he should be imprisoned is taking this a bit too far, we should wait for more details on this and not judge on such minimal information.
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