average jonas | VLR.gg

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Subreezy

people have been hating on him recently which i disregarded as regular vlr toxicity, but the sheer amount of people with negative opinions about him makes me think there could be some truth to it. does anyone have clips or evidence of his "toxic positivity" or whatever? this isn't a bait i'm genuinely curious about what you all are talking about

if this breaks guidelines then sorry mods, the intention of this isn't to spread toxicity but rather share factual information. but i understand if it's crossing the line

edit: so i’ve come to the conclusion that he hasn’t done anything in specific to deserve the hate, it’s just that most people view how he presents himself on stream as “fake”. also he’s a simp? not sure why that deserves hate but whatever.
in my opinion he seems like a dude living his life and if he really was a fake attention seeking whore or whatever then he’d be starting drama daily in the valorant community, even though he’s done the opposite recently, branching off to other games while maintaining a core audience.

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moatz

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https://www.twitch.tv/averagejonas

I think this might help u

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Subreezy

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LMAO nah but actually, is this a shahzam type of thing or did he do something to attract hate

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moatz

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I think it's a mix of both tbh

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ive always got the feeling he is lowkey toxic and a little cringe at least from his streams and when he was in the tarik watch party in champs

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i get the hate for shaz the rat, but idk jonas is just living

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So you don't blame anyone on iBUYPOWER who blatantly match fixed which caught the eye of many and it's all ShahZaM's fault right?

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get off ur alt shaz + they all fucked up but he ratted + recent events shows he is a weak person

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"As for why I did it, I believe that the image of our game and the integrity of esports in general is bigger than a few people, let alone a few skins and a playoff spot." - Shahzeb "ShahZaM" Khan

And I agree that the integrity of competitive Counter-Strike(especially when throughout the history of CS it was notoriously difficult to obtain sponsorships due to lack of stability and exposure) far out weighed the repercussions of going public but that's just IMO.

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ik he might've been involved too but this is the first time i see ppl more pissed at the guy who exposed the matchfixers than the matchfixers themselves

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Nice frags I'm jealous lol

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nvm

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jesus christ bro I hope no one saw me open dat 💀

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💀

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nutab1e

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BRO

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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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nutab1e

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theres no way you post that and edit just to fk me over while im at work fk

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u at work? NO FUCKING SHOT LMAOOO

hope no one saw that

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....

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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nutab1e

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I'm coming to masters tokyo and rocking your shi young pup

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can't wait for u to spank me daddy!

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BRO!?!

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babynutab1e

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WHAT?

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asdfgh

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its okay no one is judging u lmaooo

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asdfgh

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we saw it already

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babynutab1e

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🤫

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Kai__

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I love inside jokes. Love to be part of one someday.

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babynutab1e

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suck to be u

be on time next time and maybe you can be a part of it

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He's a nice guy/simp. So he cares very deeply about female approval (like the insta hoes that show off their bodies for male approval), he's like the male version of that. Think r/niceguys on reddit, that's him, but he has above average looks and is "famous", so the traits are not as hardcore. A lot of his "positive toxicity" comes from this ig.

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reycac

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no way vlr is a real place when being nice is their criticism 💀

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asdfgh

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the thing is he feels so fake,hes vibe is just always kinda weird and he is def a butthurt and defensive guy as you can see from the fact he is malding on twitter because kids on vlr are talking shit about him

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aww he didn't get it

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Subreezy

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bro what are you even saying LMAO

your world view must be really fucked up if you think "insta hoes" show off their bodies for solely male approval. half the girls i know who post provocative stuff are lesbians and most just want to look good for themselves and hype themselves up by posting on social media

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andrewdamf

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yeah bro we believe that

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Absolute majority of humans thrive for attention, specifically from another gender. It's in our nature.
Women are no exception. Instagram helps them to get "men points" without directly interacting with men. They might not admit it when you ask them, but it's true nevertheless.

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zombzino

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subreezy you cant argue with the vlr forumers who have never gone outside and experienced proper social interaction.

good luck

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Subreezy

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i always think people on vlr are being ironic

and then they keep talking ☹️

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oh you're one of them lmao

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ASTEROIDCHILD

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if you bucket everyone that doesn't feel the same way as you into a group then you are sadly the npc

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crashhacker1

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you're right. I dont know why he has to simp so much tho, he has the looks so does he still struggle with women?

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dont got any evidence but just a streamer who is everything i dont like (my opinion)

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while we’re still on the topic, how y’all feel bout flexinja?

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andrewdamf

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fell off harder than my grandma
is a decent player tho

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kinda cringe but seems like a nice guy

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siphonval

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probably a nice dude but caters too much to the ultra woke weirdos

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Bro said ultra woke 💀

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NG1nS

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i mained omen bcz of his plays(and because i sucked at raze no matter how hard i tried)

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wait his name isnt flexninja???
idk much about him tbf

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moatz

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i think flexinja is chill. one of my most watched streamers when val first came out
haven't watched much of him after 2021 though

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ajwinner

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maybe he's not fake nice, maybe you guys are cynical toxic shitheads

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proud_bandwagoners

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Looking at the replies I'm convinced that VLR cannot be saved

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shockyyyy

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Are you trying to start a war by saying the name?

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voldemort? 🤫

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at this point he might be living rent free in our heads not the other way around

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Ullyr

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is shazam and avgjonas most hated by vlr ?

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babynutab1e

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no one can take that #1 spot from Leorge Leddes

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Nobody linking anything kinda proves people were just being ass holes for almost no reason.
Like this whole thing started because of "1 guys experience that he hasn't actually provided any proof about"

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Subreezy

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check the edit, that’s basically my take too

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Yeah just annoying that this one random dude just started all this talking about a very specific instance and he's not backed it up at all.
For all we know we could watch the clip and that random guy could be an absolute asshole.

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pitchfork

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as expected from vlrgg

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Dybala21

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Nah people just jealous of him, especially that other guy who started that thread

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babysasuke

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ive always wanted to be a toxic opera singer masquerading as an internet nice guy

you caught me

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ajwinner

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you always wanted to be more than a forum shitposter

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+1

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VLR is toxic lmao

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W Subreezy, his lineups are what attract people to watch his contents anyway, don't know why people are mad about some lineups 🗿

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Ultra common subreezy W

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who

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It's a vlr bruhh

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raynexo

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he has become very cringe. he keeps posting weird tweets. defends onlyfans girls and what not.

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Think its way more cringe public figures are apparently invulnerable to criticism and everyone feels compelled to defend the guy cause they're also content creators. Real talk