Worst orgs in all of esports

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Na1myy

This List is not about how successful the org is, it is how inmoral their behavior has been.

TSM: Reginald is one of the OG assholes in Esports. From the Leena scandal, all the way back when they fucked over their CS team (who just made their own org and became the best of all time) Just a clown org.
FaZe: Their culture, all the scandals, just a really shady organisation
NiP: What they did to legendary players, (like not allowing them to have a girlfriend) their consistent pr bs, how they handeled the Dev1ce situation
Astralis: Probably the worst organisation in the history of esports that actually is (or rather was) really successful
T1: Also have been involved in some really shady shit

Which team would you add??

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hiimnsk

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please do elaborate on nip lmaoo

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I come from CS, so i only know what they did there, but it always has been their flagship title. Back when CS:GO came out the org decided to make a swedish super team that dominated the early days of counter strike. Fifflaren (A player from that era) later held an interview about all the stuff the org did to them and what kind of assholes work there as the staff. (To much to talk about, just watch the interview)

Back when that Fifflaren guy retired, they essentially did what Astralis has been doing for the last few years, which is abusing their name to sign naive players to shitty contracts and tank their entire career.

The latest scandal has been when they made their big block buster move when they signed Dev1ce, the most successful CS:GO super star of all time from astralis. Oh man, it is so much to talk about. It essentially ended in the fact that dev1ce benched himself due to mental heath (and now we know also physical health since he always had a condition that got worse with stress, and NiP put him under a lot of stress), then rotting on their bench for 10 months until he was just recently bought out by astralis again.

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Why are you typing as If noone followed cs here? Ive been playing and following from 2009 and still follow the pro scene. Device was great but no "the most succesfull superstar". Device benching himself had nothing to do with the org itself it was due to the fact his relationship ending fucked his mental which happens. I also think that he realised it was not the move after not getting the results he wanted with nip. As I said though - nothing to do with the org if anything NIP are the ones that got fucked over paying over one mill for a player to sit ont he bench.

It feels like you came here to show off as a "know it all" thinking people here dont know anything about CS.

"I come from CS, so i only know what they did there" - fuck off.

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EndMePleaseUwU

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Hey, bro don't yell the kids are here :(

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hiimnsk

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b-b-but he comes from cs he only knows what goes on

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Piter

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Bruh all he said amounted to "I don't know much about what NiP did in other games with other teams, all I know is what they did in the CSGO scene" why are you mad about that lol

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Because the person you're replying to probably thought that he said "only I know about cs" instead of "I only know about cs". There's quite a big difference between what those phrases mean which can change the tone of what they said a lot.

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Piter

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Yeah, can happen

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Underrated comment

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Na1myy

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"fuck off." What the hell did i do to your ass? I just thought you just never watched CS and i tried to inform you, how am i supposed to know what esports you follow, do i know you? Why do you insult me?

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Na1myy

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Also "Device was great but no "the most succesfull superstar"."
4 majors
2 Major mvps
1 intel grand slam
19 mvps
28 total events
HLTV top 20 for every year so far, only 2 times outside of the top 5.

Who comes even remotely close to that?

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Shaheeeeem

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Bro dev0ce must be so happy with all the riding you are doing
Most successful star has 0 hltv #1
And you are saying who comes remotely close
Dude you are delusional

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That is pretty much irrelevant yeah sure zywoo and simple were important for their teams but dev1ce is probably one of the only awper in cs who actually knows how to value his life and play a more anchor oriented awp that imo is better than having a flashy awper who pops off one rnd and then dies with no impact the nxt

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Na1myy

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Hahaha you are just a hater. I just point out the obvious.

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firo

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source on that device bit?

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hiimnsk

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+1 Id love to see the "physical health" bit too

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Na1myy

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Look up the interview with Luis Miraa. He aluded to the fact that his stomach condition kicked in during that time.

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Can you say for sure that device's stress was caused by the org? Does it clearly mention in the interview that the stress was from there or caused by something else? This might be why others are criticising your point about device being screwed by nip.

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Na1myy

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A mix of both honestly. Do you remember the clip of devi1ce saying some pr shit to some investors of something where he said something along the lines of that NiP is miles ahead of astralis? A clip that should have never been used but somehow landed on Nips social media. He got a lot of hate for it and his old team mates replied boken hearths or something. Thats just out of memory.
The situation with anonymo durring flashpoint 3 was also awfully handled by the org, which also resultued in a lot of hate towards dev1ce. Then he had with some bum academy player all the time while they were finding a new player.

The benching situation was also badly handled. No updates what so ever. They probably didnt want to continue with him durring the last few months and just tried to sell him. I think he would have played, you cant tell me that device rather wants to play faceit all day for a fraction of his sallery when he could play on big stages for a high amount of money.

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Ok I will be honest, I have never followed cs. I was just responding based on the arguments others made about your comments on device. You probably are right if this info above is all true; the org treated him horribly and ruined his career.

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Na1myy

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Nah, not ruined his career. If there is one player in the world where you can be sure that he will be right back in the mix it is dev1ce. He has lost so may times before he became the goat, always struggled with mental and physical health, has always been great no matter how good his team is for such a long time now.

This video talks about this a bit more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFfk0VETNyU , just a great video to understand who dev1ce is.

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firo

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i look it up and i cant find it, why dont you just link it

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Na1myy

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"It might take a little while for me to be fully ready at my peak, but I spent a lot of time during the break focusing on CS and improving stuff that is needed to compete at the highest level, both mentally and physically." implying he wasnt on his hight physically. He also talked about how he was under a lot of stress, which you might now makes his stomach issues worse. He kinda has these same issues gtr always had, he even went to hospital for it.

Okay, "we know that he had physical issues" might be a bit to much. I want to correct it to: It looks very likely that he also had physical issues.

https://escorenews.com/en/csgo/news/40071-dev1ce-explains-his-break-and-mental-health-issues-i-had-some-problems-with-anxiety-i-didn-t-really-sleep-and-it-was-just-hell

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100TBoeJiden

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how about you present facts and not emotions.

holy cringe McCringey

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hiimnsk

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wdym "shady stuff" is facts

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Na1myy

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What am i supposed to do? Look that shit up and then come back, am i a news site or an encyclopedia?

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Na1myy

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Never mind just saw that you are trolling, some of that shit is funny tho.

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horse69

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RRQ

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Na1myy

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Sure, they handled their team bad, but nothing immoral has happened here, they just suck and do not know how to run an esports team, just like NA CS orgs.

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nutab1e

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not about how immoral their behavior has been

the culture

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Na1myy

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I will give you that. Even though i think their culture is a bad influence on others. Should have expended on that point.

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Shaheeeeem

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Bro trying too hard to defend dev0ce
He was the reason ASStralis broke up
Left xyp and Dupreeh for Emilia hult and then when he got scammed he decided to bench himself scammed the org
Abused the Scandinavian labour laws and kept stealing paychecks
Explain to me how the fuck he was mentally not ready to play for nip and now all of a sudden he can play for astralis
And FYI he started to grind fpl with Danish pros as soon as he moved to nip
He is the sole reason for his condition and maybe Emilia
Don't put it on nip

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Na1myy

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Asstralis broke the team apart with their shitty management. From blasttralis that ruined their era, to the 6 and later 10 man lineup, how they just burned out the players. Yeah sure keep hating on dev1ce.

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Shaheeeeem

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Keep riding dev0ce
Bro you are delusional
Dev0ce is the sole reason for everything that happened to him
Don't blame nip for this

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Na1myy

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Delusional

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Shaheeeeem

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Says who
Keep riding him

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fIuid

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such a dogshit list those orgs are not bad

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fIuid

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add g2 btw

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frappzlul

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didnt pay their employees

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Na1myy

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Good pick

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BadlandsChugs

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as an owl fan, lg immortals and misfits come to mind

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FoechiGG

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Bro has a G2 flair

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Na1myy

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Havnt changeds it yet. Without Carlos G2 is just another org.

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MantapMas

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Aerowolf

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Zeah

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what they're doing?

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Na1myy

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I dont know them, what have they done?

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Zaynio

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We probably need to distinguish T1 and SKT T1 though right?

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Na1myy

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yes

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LiebertyVAL

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Add BREN from Putangina country they straight up in drug trafficking

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Immortals LOL

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SAMPV6

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that one APAC org that didn't pay any of the players and pocketed winnings

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Geck0

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Samurai Esports

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SilentNight

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Ironic coming from someone who's a G2 fan

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Nutzzz

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sen cauz they have tonz

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JsT

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X10 for sure

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Scar98

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T1 is goated wdym