TLN underrated?

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WinterZ

bro why are so many people putting this team at like top 5-6th max? Like, that team is literally the prime XIA core +Kadoom, who is easily one of the best players in APAC.

People forget that, even though XIA 2022 flopped at LAN, they and prx were making APAC their bitch for the entire year.

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Without sscary

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WinterZ

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crws has shown a lot of improvement on smokes as of late. Patiphan is a flexible dude and he could easily play crws' role.

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Sscary was by far their best most impactful player, without him I can’t see them as one of the best in apac, with time mb,
But not over drx prx t1

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TLN is nothing

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if they get patiphan I'd put them in top 3 maybe

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WinterZ

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they are likely getting Patiphan according to Flynn

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Cause drx, prx, T1 are better

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Even GenG

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WinterZ

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eh. I'm not sure I agree with you on that one. GenG looks decent at best. They have 1 excellent player in Meteor and then the rest of the team looks mid. TLN on the other hand have 2 hard carries in the form of Patiphan and Kadoom

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ons core > xerxia core, meteor > kazoom

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nah bro 💀

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jimjam789

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xerxia core cant beat nth with 2 years of experience 💀

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WinterZ

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no way you unironically said this

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jimjam789

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wdym lmao, xerxia core literally lost to nth, one of the weakest teams in international vct ever. ons core with less than a month of preparation with a new roster managed to beat nth. and is meteor > kadoom really that questionable lmaooo

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WinterZ

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XIA core also dominated SEA regionally for this whole year and that's without Patiphan but I don't see you talking about that.

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jimjam789

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its almost 2023 and we still think apac is a tier 1 region? when sea's #2 couldnt do shit? if xerxia was shitting on apac, and then proceeded to get shit on by every other team where does that place apac? ok patiphan in, but sscary is also out so its a 1 for 1 trade. not to mention u talk about t1 having role issues when theres both kadoom and pati for tln

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WinterZ

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As I said before, Patiphan is a flexible guy. He can adapt to just about any role thrown at him. Also, you act like East Asia is any better than APAC. East Asia's only consistently good team throughout all their history has been DRX whereas APAC has produced numerous top tier teams over the years.

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numerous top tier teams? which ones? ohhh you mean only fucking prx because every other sea team has gotten shit on. the only other decent team was x10 and their best accomplishment was making playoffs just once out of the entire 2021 year. you wanna talk about history? nuturn 3rd zeta 3rd drx 3rd drx 5-6th 5-6th 5-8th > prx 2nd prx 3rd x10 5-8th.

continue thread →

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aint no way ur saying east is just drx when northeption, who beat the 2nd best apac, came 3rd in an lcq lmao. EA's 5th > apacs 2nd lmaoo

continue thread →

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jimjam789

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in fact sscary for pati isnt even a 1 for 1 trade if you look at value. youre essentially trading apacs best controller for an additional duelist who hasnt played in vct for a year

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WinterZ

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T1 looks alright but there is too much role overlap for me to put them in top 4 atm. We'll have to see who their 5th is before we make any decisions.

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patiphan is overrated

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pati is coming back?

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WinterZ

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According to leaks yes

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Nah without sscary... he was like the last boss for other SEA orgs before....

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TLN with no sScary ResidentSleeper