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Mjtchell

These are the ORGS I want to see franchised in the Americas League:

DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS

NA:

100T
C9
OPTIC
TSM
EG
FaZe

LATAM:

Leviatán
KRU

BR:

LOUD
Furia

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spookmeister

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W but Xset > TSM just because fuck tsm

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Mjtchell

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XSet just doesn't have a lot of pull I think EG could buy them out

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spookmeister

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i just dont like tsm

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I hate xset

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Mjtchell

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Need someone to be the villain

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Nah, a crappy org doesn't need to be in franchising. Make a villian through marketing, not through being crappy human beings.

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eg is dead as fuck lmao

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Mjtchell

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You've never watched League or CS then

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sentinels is kind of a guarantee, they have too much notoriety and star power to be ignored

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out of this list i dont think EG or faze make it, instead sen and NRG/TGRD will

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EG has a league roster though, there's a strong chance they make it

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kshah

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so does T1 and they arent making it for sure

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wait so T1 might not make it but xeta left C9 which is now guaranteed a spot in franchising and went to a team that won't make it? that tells me xeta leaving might have been a team decision rather than a personal one

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Mjtchell

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This is the stupidest take I've seen
T1 is the 100T of Korea in terms of opportunity.
T1 is almost guaranteed franchising whether its in Korea or NA
They have 3 Korean players and Steel is learning Korean in case it comes to T1 playing in Korea
Either way Xeta is gonna be fine

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But drx is pretty much confirmed for Korea. T1 will be competing with damwon kia for the spot. Both are huge organised, and I feel like if it comes downto it, riot will choose damwon over t1 because they already have a valorant team in Korea, while t1 are still in na.

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DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS

Sentinels is not a big org

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kshah

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they arent but they are the biggest brand in valorant so riot would have to be smoking to not let them in franchising

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Subreezy

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i don't know how much that matters (in this special case). think about how many fans they've brought to VCT and Valorant and how much name recognition they have as well

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Mjtchell

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They were huge in Halo, Apex, and Fortnite no?

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spookmeister

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Fortnite only cuz they got lucky with one signing and the dude won the event
Apex kekw
Halo they basically just stole Optics roster if i remember right

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Mjtchell

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I get that, but honestly coming from CS I literally didn't hear about this org until Valorant

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Subreezy

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yeah, but isn't that kind of the point? Sentinels and Valorant go together in terms of name recognition

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Mjtchell

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Yea, but honestly I think leaving out any of the other orgs listed is a huge loss for Riot
TSM would be my first candidate to go
FaZe, and Optic have long lines of history in shooters
C9, 100T, and EG all have League rosters
TSM has a League roster and is the Biggest org in the world (in terms of net worth)

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kshah

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recently FaZe has been kinda sus and i dont think riot wants them in the league

my picks for NA are:

100T
TSM
SEN
C9
OPTC
NRG/TGRD

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Mjtchell

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If FaZe is out then I think T1 are in simply because they have the resources and connections. That or theyd give pity slot to SEN
NRG and TGRD just aren't as big as these other orgs

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maybe yeah, but i'd get rid of FaZe cause of all the crypto shit and controversy

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Mjtchell

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Fair

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100T and EG OMEGALUL

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spookmeister

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?????
how is 100T an omegalul
They went to champs with a 6 month old roster, have insane funding (tons of content creators, sponsorships, merch sales, collabs....), have super big popularity, etc

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Mjtchell

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100T C9 and EG all feel like the Obvious picks

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aTastyCook1e

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Shroud Tarik and Tenz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100T and EG

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spookmeister

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3 somewhat big streamers
VERSUS
An army of big streamers
Nadeshot, Valkyrae, WillNeff, VinnieHacker, Kyedae, Fuslie, Hiko, Yassuo, BrookeAB, Neekolul, AustinShow, etc
Not even including the pros themselves in this list
Not really a real competition youve got going there

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W NO SEN

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there's no logical view where leviatan make it but sentinels dont

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spookmeister

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Logic:
leviatan is a latam org and sen is an NA org neither one would take the others spot

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you didn't understand what I said then, Leviatan are a new org, if they make it then it's purely because of the fanbase they've built this year thanks to their roster. If the deciding factor for Riot is fanbase, then sentinels is a no brainer for NA teams

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Mjtchell

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Leviatan is in the League circuit Sentinels has no connection to riot prior to valorant

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I don't think they are in LLA, they have a tier2 team as far as I'm aware, and sentinels used to have a league team when they were called phoenix1. I imagine that if Riot would rather have an org like EG over sentinels then I imagine they would rather have an org like Infinity over Leviatan

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Brazil could be:

Loud
Furia
Fluxo/MiBR

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Mjtchell

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I could see mibr as well, as long as its not NIP imo

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Loopzin

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I think most likely the nip should go on account of the investment

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Mjtchell

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I think they shouldn't be involved in BR simply because they relocated just to pay the players less than they would an EMEA roster

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I also agree with you but apparently they didn't show any sign of disbanding and from the interviews with the nip players I think they have a very good chance of getting into more American franchises

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aTastyCook1e

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Brazil will only get 2 spots.

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Loopzin

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How do you know that ? many news are saying that it will be 3 organization pro br 2 latam

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aTastyCook1e

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Because the most important for a franchise is the return that approved orgs will give to RIOT, and NA has much higher orgs than any possible 3 BR org, only LOUD and FURIA match head-on with these NA orgs currently

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I don't agree, we have such large organizations that are in the scenario that would go head to head in addition to loud fury / Mibr, Nip , Fluxo and GL

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Just see the list of the post, none of these orgs you cited are bigger than NA orgs, and still lacked some NA orgs that are also bigger like Sentinels and NRG...

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Sukita

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Burro. A MIBR que é da Immortals tem mais capital e estrutura que a Loud e Furia. Loud e Furia estão muito longe do capital de qualquer organização do NA, sem comparação mesmo

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aTastyCook1e

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Burro é você de achar que é só dinheiro que importa, retardado. MIBR atualmente não tem nem 1/4 do prestígio e engajamento que um dia já tiveram no passado, se é q vc ta contando com isso.

Quer apostar alguma coisa que a MIBR n passa nas franquias? Mr just money matter.

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nrg > eg

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Mjtchell

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Nrg has little to no Riot connection

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SEN
NRG :
C9
100T
TSM
LEV/9Z :
KRU
LOUD
FURIA
GAMELANDERS :
the ones with : I'm not too sure, the rest is basically confirmed

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It’ll be 6 NA for sure.

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Nip should buy leviatan if they dont make franchise with brazil ,

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Mjtchell

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NIP should not be in franchise

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why? i think they have more money then furia

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Mjtchell

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Rat org, left EMEA just so they could pay players less
If there are little amounts of orgs it should be an org thats committed to the region as a whole not an org that only invests in regions for them to be cheaper

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Leviatan won’t be there but this roster (or a huge part of it) will

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Mjtchell

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I think I'd like Fusion to be there if Leviatán can't

Americas Franchise

These are the ORGS I want to see franchised in the Americas League:

NA:

LATAM:

BR: