These are the ORGS I want to see franchised in the Americas League:
DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS
NA:
100T
C9
OPTIC
TSM
EG
FaZe
LATAM:
Leviatán
KRU
BR:
LOUD
Furia
spookmeister [#2]W but Xset > TSM just because fuck tsm
XSet just doesn't have a lot of pull I think EG could buy them out
Subreezy [#4]sentinels is kind of a guarantee, they have too much notoriety and star power to be ignored
out of this list i dont think EG or faze make it, instead sen and NRG/TGRD will
kshah [#6]out of this list i dont think EG or faze make it, instead sen and NRG/TGRD will
EG has a league roster though, there's a strong chance they make it
Subreezy [#4]sentinels is kind of a guarantee, they have too much notoriety and star power to be ignored
DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS
Sentinels is not a big org
Subreezy [#8]EG has a league roster though, there's a strong chance they make it
so does T1 and they arent making it for sure
Mjtchell [#5]XSet just doesn't have a lot of pull I think EG could buy them out
i just dont like tsm
spookmeister [#9]DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS
Sentinels is not a big org
they arent but they are the biggest brand in valorant so riot would have to be smoking to not let them in franchising
Subreezy [#4]sentinels is kind of a guarantee, they have too much notoriety and star power to be ignored
I get that, but honestly coming from CS I literally didn't hear about this org until Valorant
spookmeister [#9]DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS
Sentinels is not a big org
i don't know how much that matters (in this special case). think about how many fans they've brought to VCT and Valorant and how much name recognition they have as well
aTastyCook1e [#7]100T and EG OMEGALUL
?????
how is 100T an omegalul
They went to champs with a 6 month old roster, have insane funding (tons of content creators, sponsorships, merch sales, collabs....), have super big popularity, etc
spookmeister [#9]DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS
Sentinels is not a big org
They were huge in Halo, Apex, and Fortnite no?
spookmeister [#18]?????
how is 100T an omegalul
They went to champs with a 6 month old roster, have insane funding (tons of content creators, sponsorships, merch sales, collabs....), have super big popularity, etc
100T C9 and EG all feel like the Obvious picks
charizard_123 [#16]there's no logical view where leviatan make it but sentinels dont
Logic:
leviatan is a latam org and sen is an NA org neither one would take the others spot
charizard_123 [#16]there's no logical view where leviatan make it but sentinels dont
Leviatan is in the League circuit Sentinels has no connection to riot prior to valorant
Mjtchell [#19]They were huge in Halo, Apex, and Fortnite no?
Fortnite only cuz they got lucky with one signing and the dude won the event
Apex kekw
Halo they basically just stole Optics roster if i remember right
Mjtchell [#15]I get that, but honestly coming from CS I literally didn't hear about this org until Valorant
yeah, but isn't that kind of the point? Sentinels and Valorant go together in terms of name recognition
spookmeister [#21]Logic:
leviatan is a latam org and sen is an NA org neither one would take the others spot
you didn't understand what I said then, Leviatan are a new org, if they make it then it's purely because of the fanbase they've built this year thanks to their roster. If the deciding factor for Riot is fanbase, then sentinels is a no brainer for NA teams
Mjtchell [#24]I could see mibr as well, as long as its not NIP imo
I think most likely the nip should go on account of the investment
Subreezy [#26]yeah, but isn't that kind of the point? Sentinels and Valorant go together in terms of name recognition
Yea, but honestly I think leaving out any of the other orgs listed is a huge loss for Riot
TSM would be my first candidate to go
FaZe, and Optic have long lines of history in shooters
C9, 100T, and EG all have League rosters
TSM has a League roster and is the Biggest org in the world (in terms of net worth)
spookmeister [#18]?????
how is 100T an omegalul
They went to champs with a 6 month old roster, have insane funding (tons of content creators, sponsorships, merch sales, collabs....), have super big popularity, etc
Shroud Tarik and Tenz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100T and EG
Loopzin [#30]I think most likely the nip should go on account of the investment
I think they shouldn't be involved in BR simply because they relocated just to pay the players less than they would an EMEA roster
Mjtchell [#31]Yea, but honestly I think leaving out any of the other orgs listed is a huge loss for Riot
TSM would be my first candidate to go
FaZe, and Optic have long lines of history in shooters
C9, 100T, and EG all have League rosters
TSM has a League roster and is the Biggest org in the world (in terms of net worth)
recently FaZe has been kinda sus and i dont think riot wants them in the league
my picks for NA are:
100T
TSM
SEN
C9
OPTC
NRG/TGRD
aTastyCook1e [#28]Brazil will only get 2 spots.
How do you know that ? many news are saying that it will be 3 organization pro br 2 latam
Mjtchell [#31]Yea, but honestly I think leaving out any of the other orgs listed is a huge loss for Riot
TSM would be my first candidate to go
FaZe, and Optic have long lines of history in shooters
C9, 100T, and EG all have League rosters
TSM has a League roster and is the Biggest org in the world (in terms of net worth)
maybe yeah, but i'd get rid of FaZe cause of all the crypto shit and controversy
Subreezy [#36]maybe yeah, but i'd get rid of FaZe cause of all the crypto shit and controversy
Fair
kshah [#34]recently FaZe has been kinda sus and i dont think riot wants them in the league
my picks for NA are:
100T
TSM
SEN
C9
OPTC
NRG/TGRD
If FaZe is out then I think T1 are in simply because they have the resources and connections. That or theyd give pity slot to SEN
NRG and TGRD just aren't as big as these other orgs
aTastyCook1e [#32]Shroud Tarik and Tenz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100T and EG
3 somewhat big streamers
VERSUS
An army of big streamers
Nadeshot, Valkyrae, WillNeff, VinnieHacker, Kyedae, Fuslie, Hiko, Yassuo, BrookeAB, Neekolul, AustinShow, etc
Not even including the pros themselves in this list
Not really a real competition youve got going there
Mjtchell [#33]I think they shouldn't be involved in BR simply because they relocated just to pay the players less than they would an EMEA roster
I also agree with you but apparently they didn't show any sign of disbanding and from the interviews with the nip players I think they have a very good chance of getting into more American franchises
Mjtchell [#23]Leviatan is in the League circuit Sentinels has no connection to riot prior to valorant
I don't think they are in LLA, they have a tier2 team as far as I'm aware, and sentinels used to have a league team when they were called phoenix1. I imagine that if Riot would rather have an org like EG over sentinels then I imagine they would rather have an org like Infinity over Leviatan
Loopzin [#35]How do you know that ? many news are saying that it will be 3 organization pro br 2 latam
Because the most important for a franchise is the return that approved orgs will give to RIOT, and NA has much higher orgs than any possible 3 BR org, only LOUD and FURIA match head-on with these NA orgs currently
aTastyCook1e [#44]Because the most important for a franchise is the return that approved orgs will give to RIOT, and NA has much higher orgs than any possible 3 BR org, only LOUD and FURIA match head-on with these NA orgs currently
I don't agree, we have such large organizations that are in the scenario that would go head to head in addition to loud fury / Mibr, Nip , Fluxo and GL
Mjtchell [#27]Need someone to be the villain
Nah, a crappy org doesn't need to be in franchising. Make a villian through marketing, not through being crappy human beings.
sank3tsu [#47]Nip should buy leviatan if they dont make franchise with brazil ,
NIP should not be in franchise
Loopzin [#45]I don't agree, we have such large organizations that are in the scenario that would go head to head in addition to loud fury / Mibr, Nip , Fluxo and GL
Just see the list of the post, none of these orgs you cited are bigger than NA orgs, and still lacked some NA orgs that are also bigger like Sentinels and NRG...
kshah [#10]so does T1 and they arent making it for sure
wait so T1 might not make it but xeta left C9 which is now guaranteed a spot in franchising and went to a team that won't make it? that tells me xeta leaving might have been a team decision rather than a personal one
aTastyCook1e [#44]Because the most important for a franchise is the return that approved orgs will give to RIOT, and NA has much higher orgs than any possible 3 BR org, only LOUD and FURIA match head-on with these NA orgs currently
Burro. A MIBR que é da Immortals tem mais capital e estrutura que a Loud e Furia. Loud e Furia estão muito longe do capital de qualquer organização do NA, sem comparação mesmo
sank3tsu [#50]why? i think they have more money then furia
Rat org, left EMEA just so they could pay players less
If there are little amounts of orgs it should be an org thats committed to the region as a whole not an org that only invests in regions for them to be cheaper
Sukita [#53]Burro. A MIBR que é da Immortals tem mais capital e estrutura que a Loud e Furia. Loud e Furia estão muito longe do capital de qualquer organização do NA, sem comparação mesmo
Burro é você de achar que é só dinheiro que importa, retardado. MIBR atualmente não tem nem 1/4 do prestígio e engajamento que um dia já tiveram no passado, se é q vc ta contando com isso.
Quer apostar alguma coisa que a MIBR n passa nas franquias? Mr just money matter.
unknown_trash [#52]wait so T1 might not make it but xeta left C9 which is now guaranteed a spot in franchising and went to a team that won't make it? that tells me xeta leaving might have been a team decision rather than a personal one
This is the stupidest take I've seen
T1 is the 100T of Korea in terms of opportunity.
T1 is almost guaranteed franchising whether its in Korea or NA
They have 3 Korean players and Steel is learning Korean in case it comes to T1 playing in Korea
Either way Xeta is gonna be fine
Sukita [#57]Leviatan won’t be there but this roster (or a huge part of it) will
I think I'd like Fusion to be there if Leviatán can't
bernog [#46]SEN
NRG :
C9
100T
TSM
LEV/9Z :
KRU
LOUD
FURIA
GAMELANDERS :
the ones with : I'm not too sure, the rest is basically confirmed
It’ll be 6 NA for sure.
Mjtchell [#56]This is the stupidest take I've seen
T1 is the 100T of Korea in terms of opportunity.
T1 is almost guaranteed franchising whether its in Korea or NA
They have 3 Korean players and Steel is learning Korean in case it comes to T1 playing in Korea
Either way Xeta is gonna be fine
But drx is pretty much confirmed for Korea. T1 will be competing with damwon kia for the spot. Both are huge organised, and I feel like if it comes downto it, riot will choose damwon over t1 because they already have a valorant team in Korea, while t1 are still in na.