is Sinatraa guilty or innocent?

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Boomma

the investigation on sinatraa is dropped and the girl want nothing to do with the investigation anymore because of "mental" issues but also sinatraa didnt have a good defense so it seems like a shit show. but innocent till proven guilty.

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Golem

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nobody (obviously except them) knows, nobody should make assumptions. end of story.

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the only viable and correct take imo

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Yeetus

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yeah innocent until proven guilty, I still think he’s annoying but that’s just my opinion

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acels1

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highly doubt he was innocent but no one cares anyways

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Kepin

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So are u asking or telling? Wtf

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Boomma

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just wanna know thought about the matter

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M0K1

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I never understood why riot was doing investigations why didn't she just go to the court riot might have ruled him out based on courts decision. also if its not the courts he isn't liable to show anything to riot. but whatever his fans are crazy

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Say you're a dude who never dealt with sexual assault without saying it

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Biology_Jesus

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You are right about this except one thing Riot isn't a government entity it can conduct its own investigation and being a private institution it can pretty much decide who they want competing in tournaments organized by them without giving much explanation. The liable thing does not hold good as riot can just say if he doesn't cooperate they wont let him compete

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M0K1

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NO that is not what I mean it's not about his competitive career but justice to whichever of them is being mistreated which riot cannot decide if the girl is in the wrong what can riot do

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Biology_Jesus

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To be very honest if justice is in the mix id rather deal only with the actual departments like courts and police but that didn't exactly happen here.

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JiangLi

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RIOT has put him on a sort of forced leave from pro play for behavior conduct training or something

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ry666

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8qpXZNbtpY0&t

try watch this, he's good at explaining it

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ToastByToast

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i love techs work from the smash community. never have been a big sinatraa guy but thought that he was really fair to both parties involved

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Boomma

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really good video thanks

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Kk0bra

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Can we stop talking abt sinatraa,his career is ruined weather he's guilty or not cause of how justice systems work , we need to move on and look at other players who have similar talent (we may find ppl like Trent leo suygetsu)

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SigmaMale

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Nobody knows but most treat him like he's guilty

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Luck_

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where is the logic in that?

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Boomma

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he saying a lot of people think he is guilty and they treat him as such

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SigmaMale

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There's not

#15

enri

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It was RIOT investigation not police
Idk what to expect but I really think he is ready for competitive and I really want old sentinels to play together

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idkbro

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they were the only 2 there and there seems to be no proof so only they will ever know

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sheahhhh

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he prob did it, but there is a justice system and even if its flawed, if you cant trust it, theres chaos so he is clean

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Queefbreath

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"he prob did it" "he is clean" ?

#22

sheahhhh

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legally clean
if u cant trust justice system, then there is no point

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BIGGEST_LG_FAN

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it does not matter, hes gonna stay a streamer

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avepalto

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i'm so tired of this topic bruh

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patuj

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We have the voice recording that is likely real and we have seen some of the messages that are quite mentally abusive, but I guess it depends on how you see it. No is no, so in theory he is guilty (we don't know what happened after tho) and we don't know did it happen more than once. But then again is that enough to blame him for sexual abuse? There's just so much we don't know, so impossible to tell.

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zakrin72

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doesnt matter because he's not gonna compete in t1 again

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MourninggStarr

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he is neither innocent or guilty; he's in a weird limbo state rn between innocent and guilty

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Mortadelo

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He is completely innocent until proven guilty. This being said, there’s a big difference between being innocent and not having done it

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AladdinINSANE

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innocent until proven otherwise

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busterD

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He’s a joker