"Chamber is a duelist"

I'm sick of this stupid argument so I basically wrote this essay to clear things up.

Chamber is not a duelist - he is a sentinel, he simply does his job in a way that is contrary to other sentinels.

All 4 sentinels, (Chamber, KJ, Cypher and Sage) are incredibly strong defensive picks, that can stop pushes solo, and are incredibly powerful when guarding their territory, they struggle; however, when adventuring outside of their territory (Cypher/Killjoy leaving setup, Chamber when leaving TP radius and Sage when having to play offensively (all of her utility struggles when attempting to take space). This is consistent across all sentinels, and is unique to them (and Viper, who is a Controller/Sentinel hybrid as stated by riot themselves).

Where people often get confused with Chamber is his proficiency in getting kills, especially first bloods. While this was historically not a sentinel thing to do (prior to his release), it is not reason to see Chamber as a duelist. Duelists, as stated by riot, "seek out engagements first". Chamber (by himself) has no utility to seek out engagements. No flashes, drones, information gathering, or mobility. His only "mobility" tool is his roundezvous, which can only allow him to retreat. (no possibility of entrying, unlike a Jett, Neon, Raze, Yoru, Reyna or Phoenix, who all have some sort of tool to engage a fight and break through into space. His other abilities, while kill oriented, are designed that way because to do his job (lock down space), he needs to get kills. Unlike Cypher, KJ and Sage, who can shut down an entire push without getting a single kill, Chamber's kit is designed that he must be taking engagements and getting kills to achieve the same site holding potential. His rondezvous, headhunter, and tour de force are all designed to allow him to 1. take an early fight to get info/pick, like a camera or turret. 2. slow down attackers, like a slorb, swarm grenade or cyber cage and 3. incentivize chamber to play within his territory, like a barrier orb, KJ passive, or trapwire.

to clear up even more confusion, and to hopefully stop any future arguments about agent roles; there is a simple way you can tell what an agent's role is by the way they interact with SPACE

Controllers define the space (split up the map, what parts of the map do you want to claim? what parts do you want the opponent to stay in?)
Initiators weaken the space (study and observe the space you want to weaken, without entering it. weaken the defenders of the space with utility to create openings for attack)
Duelists invade the space (enter the space as fast as possible and during the window of highest threat. quickly claim space for your team to allow them to follow you in)
Sentinels defend the space (hold down and weaken attackers when they attempt to claim your space, retain information on space your team already owns)

As you can see, there are lots of different ways to, define, weaken, invade and defend space, but at the end of the day, the agents in those roles will be best suited for doing that job, even if it may be in a much more unique style than other agents of that class.

TLDR; Chamber whole kit about defending his territory, no initiation tools (unlike duelists), kills/FB =/= duelist.

Not reading, Chamber is a duelist and youre delusional

Nice essay though zzzzzzzzzzzz

its copypasta, if not i will make it

I think chamber is a dualist

W

mans tryna act smart.

surely this is a copypasta and not something a real human typed out

Everyone In the replys prove why VLR users (including me) are brain dead

Tbh ppl already knew kinda that chamber's not a duelist but still tried to use him as such cause of how shite duelists are from a competitive standpoint

Still nice analysis , at least u put ur feelings out of ur system, good for u

Chamber’s rendezvous also feels like it does more than its intended purpose. Chamber is definitely a sentinel since he is good at holding areas down, the only difference is that he does it proactively. Yet, it also feels like the rendezvous was meant as a reposition as well. They’re hitting site, you get one, tp now u have a new angle. Defensively this makes much more sense than post up for an aggressive op angle and tp out after a shot. It just feels like chamber has a lot of different ways to play with his util, but right now his kit is so much better as this hyper agressive agent that seeks out 1 on 1s.

So jett is a sentinel too because her kit can hold down space, got it

chamber on defense = duelist, chamber on offense = sentinel

Trying to bring logic to a bunch of 12 year olds. If all the star players start playing Reyna tomorrow and they will surely have stellar stats, VLR people will call for a Reyna nerf.

didn't read + he is a duelist

I am happy for you
Or sad that it happened
But I ain't reading that

Everything you said might be completely correct but his roundezvous is absolutely busted. That's all what I have to say. Almost as fast as jett dash but you can go anywhere in 15 or 20 m range or whatever it is. On top of that it recharges every 20 secs. I think that's a little overpowered

Copied my pasta

Finally somebody said it

You are the first vlr user with a functioning brain

chamber is a duelist+sage isnt a sentinel

first ever vlr user to unlock more than 0.01% or their brain, colorized circa 2022

why tf do people write essays dude

its time to d-d-d-d-d-duel!

actually enjoyed reading, then scrolled down and realized i'd get downvoted for saying so

so: haha too long didn't read happy for you or sad that it happened nerd nerd nerd no one cares lul

While other sentinels use abilities to physically defend space (think tripwires, wall, turret), chamber does the exact same thing but has to physically defend it with his life. His ideal playstyle is very much like a sentinel in that regard. He can self sufficiently hold down a space, which is what sentinels are supposed to do.

He does not CREATE space, that's what duelists do. A duelist really isn't so much about taking duels, it's mostly about taking space, and chamber does not have any util to take space.

And just to round out the argument using space as the defining element of each role:
-Initiators assist people in taking space by either flashing so people can physically take space, or using info util, so people who take space know HOW to take it in the ideal way
-Controllers define what the space looks like (by blocking sightlines and altering the playing field)
-Duelists take space (by physically moving in and pushing)
-Sentinels hold a space (by locking down a space already held)

Ever heard of a hybrid agent?
Chamber Sen/Duel hybrid
Viper Contr/Sen hybrid
Raze Duel/Init hybrid
etc etc

i agree

I'm sick of this stupid argument so I basically wrote this essay to clear things up.

Chamber is not a duelist - he is a sentinel, he simply does his job in a way that is contrary to other sentinels.

All 4 sentinels, (Chamber, KJ, Cypher and Sage) are incredibly strong defensive picks, that can stop pushes solo, and are incredibly powerful when guarding their territory, they struggle; however, when adventuring outside of their territory (Cypher/Killjoy leaving setup, Chamber when leaving TP radius and Sage when having to play offensively (all of her utility struggles when attempting to take space). This is consistent across all sentinels, and is unique to them (and Viper, who is a Controller/Sentinel hybrid as stated by riot themselves).

Where people often get confused with Chamber is his proficiency in getting kills, especially first bloods. While this was historically not a sentinel thing to do (prior to his release), it is not reason to see Chamber as a duelist. Duelists, as stated by riot, "seek out engagements first". Chamber (by himself) has no utility to seek out engagements. No flashes, drones, information gathering, or mobility. His only "mobility" tool is his roundezvous, which can only allow him to retreat. (no possibility of entrying, unlike a Jett, Neon, Raze, Yoru, Reyna or Phoenix, who all have some sort of tool to engage a fight and break through into space. His other abilities, while kill oriented, are designed that way because to do his job (lock down space), he needs to get kills. Unlike Cypher, KJ and Sage, who can shut down an entire push without getting a single kill, Chamber's kit is designed that he must be taking engagements and getting kills to achieve the same site holding potential. His rondezvous, headhunter, and tour de force are all designed to allow him to 1. take an early fight to get info/pick, like a camera or turret. 2. slow down attackers, like a slorb, swarm grenade or cyber cage and 3. incentivize chamber to play within his territory, like a barrier orb, KJ passive, or trapwire.

to clear up even more confusion, and to hopefully stop any future arguments about agent roles; there is a simple way you can tell what an agent's role is by the way they interact with SPACE

Controllers define the space (split up the map, what parts of the map do you want to claim? what parts do you want the opponent to stay in?)
Initiators weaken the space (study and observe the space you want to weaken, without entering it. weaken the defenders of the space with utility to create openings for attack)
Duelists invade the space (enter the space as fast as possible and during the window of highest threat. quickly claim space for your team to allow them to follow you in)
Sentinels defend the space (hold down and weaken attackers when they attempt to claim your space, retain information on space your team already owns)

As you can see, there are lots of different ways to, define, weaken, invade and defend space, but at the end of the day, the agents in those roles will be best suited for doing that job, even if it may be in a much more unique style than other agents of that class.

TLDR; Chamber whole kit about defending his territory, no initiation tools (unlike duelists), kills/FB =/= duelist.

Controllers define the space (split up the map, what parts of the map do you want to claim? what parts do you want the opponent to stay in?)
Initiators weaken the space (study and observe the space you want to weaken, without entering it. weaken the defenders of the space with utility to create openings for attack)
Duelists invade the space (enter the space as fast as possible and during the window of highest threat. quickly claim space for your team to allow them to follow you in)
Sentinels defend the space (hold down and weaken attackers when they attempt to claim your space, retain information on space your team already owns)

this sums it up pretty well but it's not precisely true. i'm sure you were speaking generally when u wrote this tho