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tofubunn [#10]tier 1 cs pro ethan and nitro couldn't even qualify for champion.. your point?
tier 1 lol, maybe 3 years ago, they were still some of the best in na tho, also nitr0 shit firepower for t1 and ethan just a decent support
number1_ScreaM_fan [#12]Skadoodle, brax, azk and autimatic were tier 1 in cs. Skill ceiling so low
not at the time of switching but nt though :)
number1_ScreaM_fan [#12]Skadoodle, brax, azk and autimatic were tier 1 in cs. Skill ceiling so low
yeah, like 4-7 years ago in NA LUL
idkbro [#13]tier 1 lol, maybe 3 years ago, they were still some of the best in na tho, also nitr0 shit firepower for t1 and ethan just a decent support
doesnt matter, they were some of the best cs players in NA and couldnt even qualify for valorant champion. OP talk like any garbage cs player can dominate in valorant.
tofubunn [#18]doesnt matter, they were some of the best cs players in NA and couldnt even qualify for valorant champion. OP talk like any garbage cs player can dominate in valorant.
I mean Gambit didn't qualify for Masters this year either...
Not qualifying ≠ bad players
Also look at Nitr0 now, absolutely washed in CS, even worse than he was in VAL. The man is just clearly past his prime, no matter the game.
kocunar [#4]Bill Gates failed college and was the richest man in the world.
Billionaire skill gap so low.
tbf bill gates dropped out not that he failed
Gomes255 [#14]so if im silver in overwatch i cant be immortal in valorant?
its other way around, pokimane is immo in val and looks like she never picked up a mouse in ow, same with some pros like asuna and tenz
tofubunn [#18]doesnt matter, they were some of the best cs players in NA and couldnt even qualify for valorant champion. OP talk like any garbage cs player can dominate in valorant.
being one of the best cs players in NA is not an achievement + valorant as far as I know is a team game, 100T was a clown fiesta but Ethan was one of the best in his role and same for nitr0, any t1-t2.5 EU cs player can become one of the best in valorant if he grinds the game a lot to compensate for the 2 years advantage the others have on him, clear example is jugi, bot in CS and now in vct and probably one of the most exciting duelists in eu
tofubunn [#10]tier 1 cs pro ethan and nitro couldn't even qualify for champion.. your point?
they were not tier 1
so whats ur point?
idkbro [#22]being one of the best cs players in NA is not an achievement + valorant as far as I know is a team game, 100T was a clown fiesta but Ethan was one of the best in his role and same for nitr0, any t1-t2.5 EU cs player can become one of the best in valorant if he grinds the game a lot to compensate for the 2 years advantage the others have on him, clear example is jugi, bot in CS and now in vct and probably one of the most exciting duelists in eu
they are tier 1 cope.
nairolf1337 [#19]I mean Gambit didn't qualify for Masters this year either...
Not qualifying ≠ bad players
Also look at Nitr0 now, absolutely washed in CS, even worse than he was in VAL. The man is just clearly past his prime, no matter the game.
Ethan has been terrible since masters 3 last year.
idkbro [#22]being one of the best cs players in NA is not an achievement + valorant as far as I know is a team game, 100T was a clown fiesta but Ethan was one of the best in his role and same for nitr0, any t1-t2.5 EU cs player can become one of the best in valorant if he grinds the game a lot to compensate for the 2 years advantage the others have on him, clear example is jugi, bot in CS and now in vct and probably one of the most exciting duelists in eu
Just imagine if: rain, broky, ropz, twistz, s1mple, perfecto, electronic, b1t, yekindar, jame, fl1t, stavn, teses, k0nfig, sh1ro, hobbit, ax1le, refrezh, spinx, niko, m0nesy, jackz, hunter, rez, dev1ce, brollan, any other nip player, furia players, zywoo, magisk, duprehh, apex... and the list goes on and on, any of these players would be insane in valorant if they have the drive to grind the game like jugi did, and this is not counting for god talents that are stuck in t2-3 like derke
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#26]Ethan has been terrible since masters 3 last year.
more like his team, he has been fine individually, just team is a mess, hopefully he can elevate nrg
Matrix13e [#30]they are still tier 1 cope.
COPIUM, LIQUID STILL TIER1, CANT EVEN BEAT MOVISTAR RIDERS BUT STILL TIER1 PLAYERS COPIUM
Noone from pro CS is going to switch games unless their career are literally destroyed there, but you cant lie If you say that you wouldnt want to see s1mple playing seriously in masters right? Obviously i love s1mple and CS but sometimes you know players like him are gonna destroy everytime it comes boring. Maybe some years ago i still had the hype when something "Crazy happened"
idkbro [#31]COPIUM, LIQUID STILL TIER1, CANT EVEN BEAT MOVISTAR RIDERS BUT STILL TIER1 PLAYERS COPIUM
still tier 1 ur on high copium.
idkbro [#29]more like his team, he has been fine individually, just team is a mess, hopefully he can elevate nrg
No, he himself was terrible, stop coming up with excuses. A big reason they were bad was because he was a 1 trick Skye and even then he didn't perform individually.
idkbro [#22]being one of the best cs players in NA is not an achievement + valorant as far as I know is a team game, 100T was a clown fiesta but Ethan was one of the best in his role and same for nitr0, any t1-t2.5 EU cs player can become one of the best in valorant if he grinds the game a lot to compensate for the 2 years advantage the others have on him, clear example is jugi, bot in CS and now in vct and probably one of the most exciting duelists in eu
don't know what shit u based on when you say ethan and nitro are the best on their roles LOL. They are just overhyped because they are tier 1 cs player, that's all they have when real good players like marved get no recognition even though he is the most consistent player in envy ( optic ) along with yay.
" any t1-t2.5 EU cs player can become one of the best in valorant if he grinds the game a lot to compensate for the 2 years advantage the others have on him " this is highly speculation, maybe at the beginning of the game to like 1 year but that's same for t1 t2 overwatch dps players. Now it's not that easy anymore. For Jugi, only know him briefly when he was in astralis then I stopped follow cs scene. Never heard him of in valorant, wait until he actually achieve something in valorant first, even then maybe hes just talented in valorant.
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#34]No, he himself was terrible, stop coming up with excuses. A big reason they were bad was because he was a 1 trick Skye and even then he didn't perform individually.
yeah his agent pool needed improvement but as a player he is fine, he has insane mechnics in valorant, one of the most refined ones also having to IGL which is something I would have never fucking expected ethan to do honestly is probably affecting his performance but considering that the team is a clownfiesta he has been fine to me
tofubunn [#35]don't know what shit u based on when you say ethan and nitro are the best on their roles LOL. They are just overhyped because they are tier 1 cs player, that's all they have when real good players like marved get no recognition even though he is the most consistent player in envy ( optic ) along with yay.
" any t1-t2.5 EU cs player can become one of the best in valorant if he grinds the game a lot to compensate for the 2 years advantage the others have on him " this is highly speculation, maybe at the beginning of the game to like 1 year but that's same for t1 t2 overwatch dps players. Now it's not that easy anymore. For Jugi, only know him briefly when he was in astralis then I stopped follow cs scene. Never heard him of in valorant, wait until he actually achieve something in valorant first, even then maybe hes just talented in valorant.
bro, he carried his team to vct, he literally didnt have a bad match in the most competitive region, thats an achievement considering he has less than 100 maps played in vlr, I said they were some of the best in their roles (at least in NA) which is true, if you watch csgo and valorant both consistently you can easily tell that the level of tier1-2.5 EU cs players is on another level, they have some of the most refined mechanics itw, this wasnt so true for some cs players who are shining in EU valorant, if all these players switched it would elevate the standard so much in terms of mechanics, the fact FNS who is a mediocre IGL and shit individually has just won masters1 is pathetic, he would have no job if these players switched, I doubt any ex csgo pro who is playing valorant would disagree
idkbro [#37]bro, he carried his team to vct, he literally didnt have a bad match in the most competitive region, thats an achievement considering he has less than 100 maps played in vlr, I said they were some of the best in their roles (at least in NA) which is true, if you watch csgo and valorant both consistently you can easily tell that the level of tier1-2.5 EU cs players is on another level, they have some of the most refined mechanics itw, this wasnt so true for some cs players who are shining in EU valorant, if all these players switched it would elevate the standard so much in terms of mechanics, the fact FNS who is a mediocre IGL and shit individually has just won masters1 is pathetic, he would have no job if these players switched, I doubt any ex csgo pro who is playing valorant would disagree
like just imagine csgo pros who have insane first bullet accuracy like rain, he would be tapping kids to a world championship lmao
idkbro [#37]bro, he carried his team to vct, he literally didnt have a bad match in the most competitive region, thats an achievement considering he has less than 100 maps played in vlr, I said they were some of the best in their roles (at least in NA) which is true, if you watch csgo and valorant both consistently you can easily tell that the level of tier1-2.5 EU cs players is on another level, they have some of the most refined mechanics itw, this wasnt so true for some cs players who are shining in EU valorant, if all these players switched it would elevate the standard so much in terms of mechanics, the fact FNS who is a mediocre IGL and shit individually has just won masters1 is pathetic, he would have no job if these players switched, I doubt any ex csgo pro who is playing valorant would disagree
no, it's not true. They weren't some of the best in their roles at all, just the average players in top 10 teams, nothing stand out. They are overhyped, period. What you said are all just speculation and your opinion, it's getting tiring. Think what you want.
tofubunn [#39]no, it's not true. They weren't some of the best in their roles at all, just the average players in top 10 teams, nothing stand out. They are overhyped, period. What you said are all just speculation and your opinion, it's getting tiring. Think what you want.
they were lmao, its not speculation at all, every1 thought that way
idkbro [#13]tier 1 lol, maybe 3 years ago, they were still some of the best in na tho, also nitr0 shit firepower for t1 and ethan just a decent support
When Ethan was switching to valorant he completely struggled and he was good but he wasn't as one of the best flex in NA. Ethan when he switched was a tier 1 CSGO player. If you swap a tier 1 CSGO player to valorant, they'd need TONS of hours to grind to valorant to be even considered great.
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