thats not how rating works

i like how u say people have selective memory but you forget all of the matches (including against xset) he farmed in the first quarter of the year, leaf had one of the highest first duel attempts in NA and still had insane stats, zekken has closer entry stats to dephh than leaf for legit the whole year, zekken isnt a HARD ENTRY like leaf was. theyre both very good dont get me wrong but I think youre overvaluing zekken and undervaluing leaf

idk man people act like he wasnt up there for top player for a whole year, they only fell off after they got curry lol

he did good against leviatan and xerxia

Sorry 1 more

Just because YAY joined them they have not became the best team in the world yeah yay is best chamber/duel but that doesn't make C9 best team yeah they have very talented A tier players but yay was on optic previously and we all know that team was goated because all the players Are S tier. But this team feels ultimately overrated.(no hate to any c9 players I love em but just saying what I was seeing on the community response to C9 roster)

and the core was heavily praised by many pros, NA league is just stacked I think itll come down to the wire at the end of the day with alot of these teams

they have the same amount of lan match wins rip

the thing that bothers me the most about VLR is their reasoning for saying coaches are good, people will say potter and sykko r good coaches when theyve been on their respective orgs for years and only had results after 1 roster move and then suddenly theyre "good"

u must think victor is bad

he played bad at what, lcq? the tourney they lost? LMAO

recency bias af

wat

how do u know how "inner esports" works and how do you know how their team worked lmao

stellar and thief never had proof lmao

https://twitter.com/IglrSam/status/1541870559595704322

this is the tweet you "screenshotted" it wasnt even deleted bro lol

they had a sub for their star player XD

probably not this meta doesnt seem to be good for them

atleast theyre trying to improve while ratzam is gonna be in boot camp streaming 12 hrs a day #SENWIN

optic lost against guard b4 iceland and won the tourney, 2 1/2 of them also have covid so not like it matters

found the OW player

alot of these people moved away from jett i feel like, leaf/f0rsaken/heat/babybay all play other agents besides jett, and even then f0rsaken can play with his eyes closed and still win in his region

but why is poised #2 and xeppaa not even on the list u dont have to think xeppaa is good but poised is def not top 8 LOOOOOOOOOL

poised #2 and xeppaa isnt good 💀 delusional SEN fan

no xeppaa and poised #2 💀

you cant talk about consistency and then say guard is ahead, they choked at LAN and have a honeymoon period in the one tourney they played, they also got owned by c9 and optic and just won 1 bo5 on a c9 offday

yay went top 8 major in cs must be noob game if a t3 player can get top 8

has to be NA/EU, NA I think has alot of good individuals but cause of buyouts a superteam will probably not be created til franchising

kru lol

if sen wants to get better they cut everyone but sick, if they cut zombs for jcstani theyre just trolling their fans. jcstani is very bad lol. cut from abx after going NEGATIVE 36 against TSM, and he just played the same way against T3 noobs on pioneers so he had decent stats. On 100T they beat EG and ANDBOX LMFAO, most overrated player ever legit plays like an idiot on smokes

sen is horrible too, won iceland cause they had a team that was together since the game came out, once other teams got players that were actually good their best placement was top 8 internationally. -zombs +jcstani isnt gonna fix anything cuz they still do the same things since 2019

hes 0 impact, guy gets eco kills and plays for stats 💀

100T

jcstani is horrible

ethan most overrated player in the world, find me a tournament where he had consistent impact and not just 1 match where he played decent and ill believe hes good

DRX 3rd place in their group at Champs ☠☠

this guy said "top 5 jett off consistency alone" and i responded saying hes not consistent, and then you respond saying you didnt mention consistency even though you were responding to a consistency thread, yep

just because he has 1 good tournament doesnt mean that he's consistent, delusional if you think so. you need multiple tournaments of consistentcy in order to be "consistent"

penny is not even consistent, theres a reason people didnt include him in top jetts in NA before this event, its because he was total ass in LCQ/berlin qualifier

wippie is also definitely NOT the best sentinel player LMAO, mitch/neT def are

zander also statpads, valyn better

i could agree with all of these points except the xeppaa one, i feel like hes one of the few NA flexs that plays more supportive for the team as opposed to someone like zekken who just W key with their flashes and util, hes also been pretty consistent this tourney. Masters he was still fairly new to the game and has been grinding during the break after. But I agree with the rest of the points

johnqt is below average, sentinel main who can only play chamber and he doesnt even awp. koalo and nismo r def very good high t2 players though

vanity usually ends his stream around 2pm and xeppaa starts it at 9-9:30, wonder what they do around that time

and then LG got owned 0-2 in both of their matches and YaBoiFluke had 160 acs in LCQ, bad tournament I guess and good day for LG.

well its a good thing theyre playing for your entertainment :^)

think they meant that more towards team that made roster changes, they could just not want to show agent pool yknow

no way that team sounds horrible

maybe because theyre not comfortable doing it and if an igl isnt comfortable igling it becomes harder to win?

Rise did good at one event whereas XSET/C9/V1 did consistent the whole entire year, if its not recent then Rise would probably be 9th/8th whereas the other 3 could be 4th

yep shahzam and dapr the two people who shit talk on twitter and also subtweet other teams are humble, maybe zombs sick and tenz + org is but def not those 2

the only person who cares is u lol theyre putting on a show and using momentum and emotions as a mental advantage, it stings even more to be taunted when youre losing badly