Fnatic win
Misc updates
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
18
15
+3
|
8
7
+1
|
7
7
+0
|
6
16
-10
|
11
8
+3
|
AvovA
G2
|
5
13
-8
|
6
10
-4
|
5
9
-4
|
9
11
-2
|
6
6
+0
|
nukkye
G2
|
9
7
+2
|
13
10
+3
|
14
9
+5
|
10
14
-4
|
7
5
+2
|
Meddo
G2
|
6
9
-3
|
6
11
-5
|
6
9
-3
|
8
8
+0
|
9
6
+3
|
hoody
G2
|
4
13
-9
|
11
9
+2
|
7
7
+0
|
9
9
+0
|
11
9
+2
|
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
4
4
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
1
1
+0
|
3
2
+1
|
AvovA
G2
|
1
5
-4
|
1
3
-2
|
1
0
+1
|
0
3
-3
|
2
1
+1
|
nukkye
G2
|
2
2
+0
|
1
1
+0
|
1
1
+0
|
1
1
+0
|
0
1
-1
|
Meddo
G2
|
1
0
+1
|
0
2
-2
|
|
|
|
hoody
G2
|
1
5
-4
|
1
2
-1
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
3
2
+1
|
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
9
5
+4
|
1
0
+1
|
3
0
+3
|
2
0
+2
|
4
0
+4
|
AvovA
G2
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
|
nukkye
G2
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
|
Meddo
G2
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
|
hoody
G2
|
0
3
-3
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Meddo
G2
|
|
8
|
|
|
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
45
|
1
|
0
|
AvovA
G2
|
|
6
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
39
|
4
|
1
|
hoody
G2
|
|
7
|
2
|
1
|
1
|
|
1
|
1
|
|
|
46
|
6
|
1
|
nukkye
G2
|
|
7
|
3
|
2
|
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
59
|
1
|
1
|
keloqz
G2
|
|
8
|
3
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
57
|
0
|
0
|
Boaster
FNC
|
|
9
|
2
|
1
|
|
|
2
|
1
|
|
|
55
|
11
|
1
|
Mistic
FNC
|
|
13
|
4
|
|
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
61
|
2
|
2
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
6
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
42
|
0
|
0
|
braveaf
FNC
|
|
8
|
3
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
49
|
2
|
0
|
Derke
FNC
|
|
9
|
4
|
1
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
61
|
2
|
0
|
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
8
5
+3
|
3
2
+1
|
1
4
-3
|
2
6
-4
|
2
2
+0
|
AvovA
G2
|
1
1
+0
|
4
5
-1
|
2
4
-2
|
3
5
-2
|
4
2
+2
|
nukkye
G2
|
2
2
+0
|
4
3
+1
|
3
5
-2
|
2
5
-3
|
2
1
+1
|
Meddo
G2
|
1
2
-1
|
0
7
-7
|
2
3
-1
|
2
2
+0
|
1
3
-2
|
hoody
G2
|
0
5
-5
|
3
3
+0
|
1
2
-1
|
1
4
-3
|
2
4
-2
|
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
2
3
-1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
AvovA
G2
|
|
0
2
-2
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
1
+0
|
nukkye
G2
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
Meddo
G2
|
|
0
2
-2
|
|
|
|
hoody
G2
|
0
2
-2
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
1
1
+0
|
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
5
2
+3
|
|
1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
AvovA
G2
|
|
|
|
|
|
nukkye
G2
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
|
Meddo
G2
|
|
|
|
|
|
hoody
G2
|
0
2
-2
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Meddo
G2
|
|
1
Round 5
Boaster
MAGNUM
|
|
|
|
1
Round 12
Mistic
|
|
|
|
|
34
|
1
|
0
|
AvovA
G2
|
|
4
Round 6
Boaster
Mistic
Round 12
braveaf
MAGNUM
Round 15
Mistic
braveaf
Round 19
Mistic
braveaf
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
1
|
1
|
hoody
G2
|
|
1
Round 6
MAGNUM
braveaf
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
Round 9
braveaf
Boaster
MAGNUM
|
|
|
29
|
0
|
0
|
nukkye
G2
|
|
4
Round 8
MAGNUM
braveaf
Round 10
Mistic
MAGNUM
Round 11
braveaf
Mistic
Round 12
Derke
Boaster
|
|
|
|
1
Round 8
braveaf
|
|
|
|
|
58
|
0
|
1
|
keloqz
G2
|
|
3
Round 5
Derke
Mistic
Round 11
Boaster
Derke
Round 17
Derke
MAGNUM
|
1
Round 7
MAGNUM
Derke
Mistic
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
52
|
0
|
0
|
Boaster
FNC
|
|
5
Round 8
Meddo
keloqz
Round 14
hoody
AvovA
Round 16
Meddo
nukkye
Round 17
keloqz
nukkye
Round 20
hoody
AvovA
|
1
Round 19
nukkye
keloqz
AvovA
|
1
Round 7
keloqz
Meddo
AvovA
nukkye
|
|
|
1
Round 7
nukkye
AvovA
|
|
|
|
60
|
6
|
0
|
Mistic
FNC
|
|
6
Round 1
Meddo
AvovA
Round 2
hoody
keloqz
Mistic
Round 4
nukkye
keloqz
Round 9
nukkye
AvovA
Round 15
hoody
nukkye
Round 21
AvovA
keloqz
|
2
Round 12
nukkye
AvovA
hoody
Round 18
hoody
Meddo
keloqz
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
72
|
0
|
1
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
4
Round 3
Meddo
hoody
Round 9
Meddo
keloqz
Round 11
hoody
keloqz
Round 16
hoody
AvovA
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
41
|
0
|
0
|
braveaf
FNC
|
|
2
Round 2
nukkye
Meddo
Round 4
AvovA
Meddo
|
2
Round 13
AvovA
Meddo
keloqz
Round 21
Meddo
hoody
nukkye
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
52
|
0
|
0
|
Derke
FNC
|
|
4
Round 1
hoody
keloqz
Round 3
nukkye
AvovA
Round 10
keloqz
hoody
Round 14
keloqz
Meddo
|
1
Round 20
keloqz
Meddo
nukkye
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
51
|
1
|
0
|
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
7
5
+2
|
1
1
+0
|
3
2
+1
|
1
7
-6
|
5
2
+3
|
AvovA
G2
|
2
5
-3
|
1
3
-2
|
2
3
-1
|
3
4
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
nukkye
G2
|
3
2
+1
|
6
5
+1
|
6
2
+4
|
7
4
+3
|
3
1
+2
|
Meddo
G2
|
3
3
+0
|
3
1
+2
|
2
5
-3
|
3
4
-1
|
3
1
+2
|
hoody
G2
|
1
4
-3
|
5
3
+2
|
3
3
+0
|
4
4
+0
|
5
2
+3
|
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
1
1
+0
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
1
1
+0
|
AvovA
G2
|
1
3
-2
|
0
1
-1
|
|
0
2
-2
|
|
nukkye
G2
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
Meddo
G2
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
|
hoody
G2
|
1
2
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
2
1
+1
|
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
3
3
+0
|
|
2
0
+2
|
|
2
0
+2
|
AvovA
G2
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
|
nukkye
G2
|
|
|
|
|
|
Meddo
G2
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
|
hoody
G2
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Meddo
G2
|
|
3
Round 7
MAGNUM
Mistic
Round 18
Derke
braveaf
Round 23
Boaster
MAGNUM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
45
|
0
|
0
|
AvovA
G2
|
|
2
Round 21
Boaster
Mistic
Round 23
Derke
braveaf
|
1
Round 13
Derke
MAGNUM
Mistic
|
|
|
1
Round 15
Boaster
|
|
|
|
|
30
|
2
|
0
|
hoody
G2
|
|
2
Round 5
Boaster
braveaf
Round 22
MAGNUM
braveaf
|
1
Round 14
MAGNUM
braveaf
Boaster
|
|
1
Round 16
Derke
Boaster
braveaf
MAGNUM
Mistic
|
|
|
|
|
|
60
|
1
|
0
|
nukkye
G2
|
|
2
Round 18
Mistic
Boaster
Round 20
Derke
braveaf
|
2
Round 6
braveaf
Mistic
Boaster
Round 8
Boaster
braveaf
Derke
|
1
Round 11
braveaf
Boaster
Derke
MAGNUM
|
|
1
Round 8
Derke
|
|
|
|
|
65
|
1
|
0
|
keloqz
G2
|
|
1
Round 20
MAGNUM
Boaster
|
2
Round 10
Boaster
MAGNUM
Derke
Round 24
Mistic
MAGNUM
Derke
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
58
|
0
|
0
|
Boaster
FNC
|
|
3
Round 1
Meddo
AvovA
Round 12
Meddo
AvovA
Round 15
nukkye
hoody
|
1
Round 11
Meddo
keloqz
hoody
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
52
|
0
|
1
|
Mistic
FNC
|
|
4
Round 1
nukkye
keloqz
Round 3
AvovA
keloqz
Round 11
AvovA
nukkye
Round 17
keloqz
nukkye
|
2
Round 4
AvovA
hoody
Meddo
Round 6
AvovA
Meddo
hoody
|
|
|
1
Round 11
nukkye
|
|
|
|
|
72
|
0
|
1
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
27
|
0
|
0
|
braveaf
FNC
|
|
2
Round 7
Meddo
nukkye
Round 22
keloqz
AvovA
|
1
Round 2
AvovA
nukkye
hoody
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
1
|
0
|
Derke
FNC
|
|
4
Round 4
keloqz
nukkye
Round 6
keloqz
nukkye
Round 9
AvovA
keloqz
Round 13
hoody
Meddo
|
1
Round 8
keloqz
hoody
Meddo
|
|
|
1
Round 6
nukkye
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
1
|
0
|
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
3
5
-2
|
4
4
+0
|
3
1
+2
|
3
3
+0
|
4
4
+0
|
AvovA
G2
|
2
7
-5
|
1
2
-1
|
1
2
-1
|
3
2
+1
|
1
4
-3
|
nukkye
G2
|
4
3
+1
|
3
2
+1
|
5
2
+3
|
1
5
-4
|
2
3
-1
|
Meddo
G2
|
2
4
-2
|
3
3
+0
|
2
1
+1
|
3
2
+1
|
5
2
+3
|
hoody
G2
|
3
4
-1
|
3
3
+0
|
3
2
+1
|
4
1
+3
|
4
3
+1
|
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
AvovA
G2
|
0
2
-2
|
1
0
+1
|
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
nukkye
G2
|
1
1
+0
|
0
1
-1
|
1
1
+0
|
0
1
-1
|
|
Meddo
G2
|
|
|
|
|
|
hoody
G2
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
2
0
+2
|
|
|
Derke
FNC
|
braveaf
FNC
|
Boaster
FNC
|
Mistic
FNC
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
AvovA
G2
|
|
|
|
|
|
nukkye
G2
|
|
|
|
|
|
Meddo
G2
|
|
|
|
|
|
hoody
G2
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Meddo
G2
|
|
4
Round 3
braveaf
MAGNUM
Round 19
braveaf
Mistic
Round 20
Derke
MAGNUM
Round 21
Mistic
Boaster
|
|
|
|
1
Round 19
Mistic
|
|
|
|
|
57
|
0
|
0
|
AvovA
G2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
33
|
1
|
0
|
hoody
G2
|
|
4
Round 2
Boaster
MAGNUM
Round 5
Boaster
Mistic
Round 8
Mistic
MAGNUM
Round 17
MAGNUM
braveaf
hoody
|
1
Round 13
Derke
braveaf
Mistic
|
1
Round 12
Derke
braveaf
Mistic
MAGNUM
|
|
|
1
Round 12
Mistic
MAGNUM
|
|
|
|
50
|
5
|
1
|
nukkye
G2
|
|
1
Round 1
Boaster
braveaf
|
1
Round 7
Derke
Mistic
Boaster
|
1
Round 14
Derke
braveaf
MAGNUM
Boaster
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
55
|
0
|
0
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keloqz
G2
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4
Round 1
Mistic
MAGNUM
Round 2
braveaf
Derke
Round 10
Derke
braveaf
Round 19
Boaster
MAGNUM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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60
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0
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0
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Boaster
FNC
|
|
1
Round 18
hoody
AvovA
|
|
|
|
|
1
Round 17
Meddo
nukkye
|
1
Round 17
Meddo
nukkye
hoody
|
|
|
54
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5
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0
|
Mistic
FNC
|
|
3
Round 12
nukkye
keloqz
Round 14
AvovA
nukkye
Round 15
AvovA
Meddo
|
|
|
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1
Round 14
nukkye
|
|
|
|
|
38
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2
|
0
|
MAGNUM
FNC
|
|
2
Round 9
keloqz
nukkye
Round 15
hoody
nukkye
|
2
Round 6
AvovA
Meddo
nukkye
Round 12
keloqz
AvovA
Meddo
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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57
|
0
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0
|
braveaf
FNC
|
|
4
Round 4
hoody
keloqz
Round 6
keloqz
hoody
Round 10
nukkye
AvovA
Round 20
nukkye
hoody
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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54
|
1
|
0
|
Derke
FNC
|
|
1
Round 21
hoody
AvovA
|
2
Round 4
nukkye
Meddo
AvovA
Round 9
AvovA
hoody
Meddo
|
1
Round 3
hoody
keloqz
Meddo
nukkye
|
|
|
|
|
|
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78
|
0
|
0
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yeah I agree
I actually don't remember Meddo playing anything that isn't Killjoy/Cypher. It seems like he relies way too much on kj, which is a boomer, because they are missing on soo many almost OP agents right now. G2 is just out of meta.
Also they are letting nukkye igl... which is clearly G2's best player, he's being sooo wasted on Sova IGL, they opted to bring hoody instead of a proper Sova for the team. G2 is just a mess, and they've been a mess for months and months. Also avova has been underperforming so much lately.
I want this team to succeed but these roster moves dont help the team if they are motivated by performances only. The keloqz benching period kinda made sense as it was more than performance but the sudden move back to the roster makes me believe it was the org's decision. If that is the case I think the org is not on the right mindset and should be working with what they had to make a tier 1 team and not just throwing the bag with buyouts from successful teams.
cmon man... they have been a mess for so long now... there is no win over sen that is able to convince me otherwise.
Some problems:
I can only laugh at those points bro. The fact that you're portraying those as somehwhat sufficient reasons to switch teams already tells enough.
It's not that deep, it's not that relevant, it's not as you're portraying it (oversimplifying or cherry-picking) and you're reading too much into it.
You're telling me not only to gloryhunt, but root for an org that loses -11M year just to have a washed 90's football player as their brand icon. Istg dude
Why do you want to debate me on opinions and me supporting G2 as an org as a whole, why should I care about any of that π
They have their competitive principles, those remain unchanged and will forever stand by their own values, which is nothing else but to become the greatest at everything while having fun along the way. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but they'll always know better. We live, we learn, we laugh it off.
It really is not that deep cmon.
Read edit reply.
And no, thank you, I'm not enjoying free entertainment to become an arrogant pleb turned wannabe analyst criticizing the team I "support" for no beneficial reason whatsoever.
I'll leave that to the parasocial weirdos and SoMe "analysts" out there with their clueless takes, talking about matters they're not involved in as of their lives depended on it
I doubt pro players get the best pro advices by lurking vlr tho...
Man you can't even keep up with your own narrative. You presented that as a list for ME to stop cheering for G2 (a bit obsessed trying to superimpose your views onto others purely driven by emotional reasons, calm down) and you end up deviating and adding up unrelated points such as you being a Mixwell fanboy??? Ok?
Why are you telling me what to do and who to criticize as if we'd ever get to know how teams operate from within, as if they weren't pros already or as if I give a single fuck?
I like something, I support. Why would I ever talk shit when I could just move on to a completely different thing
Nobody is forcing me to. Why should I act in a condescending way demanding shit to people that doesn't owe me nothing & to whom I'm getting free entertainment (and others) from in exchange? Grow up...
The problem is not how we think a team plays a videogame. That's at the bottom of the list
if you don't like my points try to refute them brother
that's how a ~fruitful~ debate should work
Try to explain my POV
you are Carlos, maybe his son or his wife HAHA
Ok Sayf.
Really good point at the end! Keep projecting and acting like you can read minds if that makes you sleep better at night :o
pffaaahaha man, I'm just messing with you cmon, you know it. Obviously I don't know who is behind the monitor rn. It's just that it makes me laugh the points that you bring in, like the Beckham's one, do you thing I really care who owns a certain team, or how they manage their economy? lmao
I'm like Sayf except my english is shit and I'm clearly a spaniard, but it was funny I'll give you that.
brobro i'm not trying to read minds, I'm sorry if it looked like that but maybe... you are reading too much as well. Chill Carlos.
You are clearly giving importance to the convo otherwise you wouldn't still be here. That's why I brought the Carlos joke. You are defending them like your life depends on em π it's all fun and banter but you like to keep the conv up. You must be def. employed by them or they are blackmailing u
do you thing I really care who own a certain team, or how they manage their economy?
Maybe you can understand now that we give relevance to different stuff and I'd rather see the bigger picture of things, meaning I couldn't care less about your aforementioned comments?
Whatever dude. Nothing I didn't say everytime I've had a convo with you before in different threads. Shit gets repetitive. Waste of time indeed. Cya
It really gets boring, Koldamenta, cba. Hope you're getting paid this month
What you've kept in mind didn't match reality most of the times throughout our convos so I'm glad this time you're getting it right.
Yes, I enjoy the esports organisation G2 :o. Amazing fact!!!
(Hold on lemme edit Sayf for Kolda real quick)