Friday, February 11th
1:00 PM EST
Patch 4.02

Misc updates

FNC ban Breeze; G2 ban Bind; FNC pick Icebox; G2 pick Ascent; FNC ban Haven; G2 ban Fracture; Split remains
Betting
$100 on FNATIC returned $100 at 1.00 pre-match odds
Streams
Valorant
Valorant Russia
LVP2
Valorant League DACH
Valorant League FR
Maps/Stats
All Maps
1 Icebox
2 Ascent
3 Split
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G2 Esports
7 / 1
Icebox PICK
47:51
FNATIC
5 / 8
13
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FNC
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Attack
Defend
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
sova
1.09 0.61 1.44 207 145 254 13 3 10 / 16 9 7 / 4 2 2 -3 -6 +3 57% 33% 75% 156 114 188 16% 13% 18% 0 0 0 2 1 1 -2 -1 -1
jett
0.92 0.70 1.08 232 166 282 16 5 11 / 19 9 10 / 1 1 0 -3 -4 +1 57% 44% 67% 143 119 162 24% 36% 13% 4 0 4 3 1 2 +1 -1 +2
viper
0.85 1.01 0.73 185 214 164 14 7 7 / 17 8 9 / 2 0 2 -3 -1 -2 57% 56% 58% 125 119 130 34% 33% 35% 2 1 1 3 0 3 -1 +1 -2
sage
0.41 0.03 0.73 112 65 149 7 1 6 / 18 9 9 / 2 1 1 -11 -8 -3 43% 22% 58% 77 49 98 18% 0% 33% 1 1 0 4 3 1 -3 -2 -1
killjoy
0.38 0.03 0.65 102 64 132 6 1 5 / 17 9 8 / 1 0 1 -11 -8 -3 38% 33% 42% 83 51 107 21% 22% 21% 0 0 0 2 2 0 -2 -2 0
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
viper
1.53 1.28 1.87 282 291 271 22 13 9 / 10 8 2 / 8 6 2 +12 +5 +7 76% 67% 89% 177 168 189 33% 37% 30% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
sage
1.36 0.97 1.86 238 182 313 18 8 10 / 9 7 2 / 8 6 2 +9 +1 +8 67% 50% 89% 147 109 197 24% 29% 21% 0 0 0 2 2 0 -2 -2 0
sova
1.28 0.93 1.75 249 179 344 20 8 12 / 14 9 5 / 7 4 3 +6 -1 +7 76% 67% 89% 148 110 198 59% 60% 59% 5 2 3 0 0 0 +5 +2 +3
killjoy
0.98 1.05 0.90 167 187 141 12 8 4 / 11 7 4 / 3 1 2 +1 +1 0 76% 67% 89% 93 103 79 14% 16% 12% 3 1 2 3 1 2 0 0 0
jett
0.92 0.79 1.09 194 185 208 15 8 7 / 12 8 4 / 1 0 1 +3 0 +3 57% 50% 67% 128 104 160 39% 45% 33% 6 4 2 2 2 0 +4 +2 +2
All
Attack
Defend
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
sova raze
1.14 1.35 1.24 240 247 239 53 27 26 / 45 26 19 / 17 6 11 +8 +1 +7 76% 67% 85% 160 155 165 20% 18% 22% 5 3 2 6 3 3 -1 0 -1
jett
0.83 1.11 0.97 226 212 238 50 23 27 / 53 29 24 / 8 4 4 -3 -6 +3 71% 64% 79% 139 139 139 22% 23% 19% 11 5 6 7 3 4 +4 +2 +2
sage kayo
0.77 1.05 0.90 188 159 222 42 17 25 / 47 27 20 / 19 10 9 -5 -10 +5 62% 58% 67% 121 105 137 24% 21% 26% 8 4 4 9 7 2 -1 -3 +2
killjoy cypher
0.52 1.11 0.81 144 104 187 35 12 23 / 43 25 18 / 6 2 4 -8 -13 +5 64% 61% 67% 100 71 129 24% 20% 26% 1 0 1 2 2 0 -1 -2 +1
viper astra omen
0.56 0.78 0.67 137 123 150 31 13 18 / 49 26 23 / 19 8 11 -18 -13 -5 65% 67% 64% 93 75 110 32% 28% 35% 5 2 3 12 4 8 -7 -2 -5
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
viper astra
1.05 1.37 1.21 239 220 261 58 28 30 / 42 24 18 / 22 11 11 +16 +4 +12 76% 67% 85% 160 138 183 31% 32% 30% 5 2 3 3 1 2 +2 +1 +1
jett raze
0.88 1.46 1.17 230 200 258 57 23 34 / 42 24 18 / 6 2 4 +15 -1 +16 71% 67% 76% 154 132 176 31% 37% 25% 16 10 6 9 7 2 +7 +3 +4
sage kayo
0.98 1.17 1.07 187 179 195 41 20 21 / 39 23 16 / 31 17 14 +2 -3 +5 70% 61% 79% 127 121 133 18% 26% 12% 1 1 0 6 3 3 -5 -2 -3
sova sage
0.90 1.18 1.04 201 166 233 47 20 27 / 44 23 21 / 20 7 13 +3 -3 +6 71% 67% 76% 127 111 144 32% 37% 30% 8 2 6 4 0 4 +4 +2 +2
killjoy viper
0.67 1.04 0.86 163 145 175 34 16 18 / 44 25 19 / 18 9 9 -10 -9 -1 74% 67% 82% 98 84 113 21% 23% 20% 6 2 4 8 5 3 -2 -3 +1
13
G2 Esports
3 / 10
Ascent PICK
48:34
FNATIC
9 / 2
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FNC
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Attack
Defend
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
sova
1.65 1.70 1.59 293 334 252 25 15 10 / 14 9 5 / 8 1 7 +11 +6 +5 88% 83% 92% 182 198 165 23% 21% 26% 3 1 2 0 0 0 +3 +1 +2
kayo
1.14 0.85 1.42 239 185 294 18 6 12 / 16 11 5 / 13 7 6 +2 -5 +7 75% 75% 75% 152 127 178 25% 32% 20% 5 2 3 3 2 1 +2 0 +2
killjoy
1.01 0.51 1.50 158 105 211 14 4 10 / 14 10 4 / 5 2 3 0 -6 +6 67% 50% 83% 105 58 151 25% 15% 31% 1 0 1 0 0 0 +1 0 +1
jett
1.00 0.76 1.25 206 201 212 17 7 10 / 17 11 6 / 1 1 0 0 -4 +4 71% 50% 92% 124 129 120 13% 17% 6% 2 1 1 3 2 1 -1 -1 0
astra
0.67 0.04 1.32 101 21 183 9 0 9 / 15 10 5 / 10 3 7 -6 -10 +4 67% 50% 83% 72 19 125 32% 20% 35% 1 0 1 6 4 2 -5 -4 -1
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
astra
1.25 0.62 1.87 275 148 403 23 6 17 / 18 11 7 / 7 2 5 +5 -5 +10 75% 50% 100% 197 113 281 28% 23% 30% 3 1 2 2 1 1 +1 0 +1
kayo
1.07 0.79 1.35 186 153 219 15 6 9 / 16 10 6 / 10 4 6 -1 -4 +3 67% 50% 83% 133 114 152 16% 35% 7% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
jett
1.03 0.63 1.43 201 155 249 19 6 13 / 16 10 6 / 4 2 2 +3 -4 +7 75% 67% 83% 136 109 164 23% 33% 14% 6 3 3 5 5 0 +1 -2 +3
sova
0.80 0.55 1.06 154 116 193 13 4 9 / 16 10 6 / 3 1 2 -3 -6 +3 54% 42% 67% 103 76 130 42% 75% 36% 1 0 1 2 0 2 -1 0 -1
killjoy
0.46 0.34 0.57 89 78 101 6 3 3 / 17 10 7 / 5 1 4 -11 -7 -4 71% 58% 83% 65 58 73 22% 31% 17% 2 0 2 3 2 1 -1 -2 +1
8
G2 Esports
6 / 2
Split
46:23
FNATIC
6 / 7
13
G2
FNC
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Attack
Defend
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
sage
1.12 1.24 0.97 212 203 225 17 10 7 / 13 7 6 / 4 2 2 +4 +3 +1 67% 67% 67% 129 125 135 27% 23% 32% 2 1 1 2 2 0 0 -1 +1
cypher
1.01 0.88 1.19 173 134 227 15 7 8 / 12 6 6 / 0 0 0 +3 +1 +2 86% 92% 78% 111 98 129 23% 25% 22% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
jett
0.99 1.02 0.95 239 258 215 17 11 6 / 17 9 8 / 6 2 4 0 +2 -2 86% 92% 78% 152 164 135 28% 23% 45% 5 4 1 1 0 1 +4 +4 0
raze
0.94 0.98 0.90 221 235 203 15 9 6 / 15 8 7 / 5 3 2 0 +1 -1 81% 75% 89% 138 142 134 20% 17% 25% 2 2 0 4 2 2 -2 0 -2
omen
0.48 0.75 0.12 126 157 87 8 6 2 / 17 8 9 / 7 5 2 -9 -2 -7 71% 92% 44% 83 97 64 29% 26% 33% 2 1 1 3 0 3 -1 +1 -2
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
raze
1.58 1.32 1.77 294 282 305 23 9 14 / 14 6 8 / 1 0 1 +9 +3 +6 81% 89% 75% 201 199 202 33% 36% 31% 4 3 1 2 0 2 +2 +3 -1
viper
1.18 0.62 1.61 233 178 276 16 5 11 / 16 8 8 / 10 7 3 0 -3 +3 76% 78% 75% 142 92 179 26% 25% 26% 1 1 0 2 2 0 -1 -1 0
sage
1.06 1.32 0.87 200 215 189 14 8 6 / 14 4 10 / 10 2 8 0 +4 -4 86% 100% 75% 134 158 117 17% 21% 15% 2 0 2 2 0 2 0 0 0
astra
0.86 1.33 0.50 159 223 111 13 9 4 / 14 5 9 / 7 3 4 -1 +4 -5 76% 89% 67% 102 132 79 32% 35% 29% 2 1 1 1 0 1 +1 +1 0
kayo
0.80 1.25 0.47 137 209 83 8 6 2 / 14 6 8 / 13 7 6 -6 0 -6 76% 89% 67% 102 148 67 13% 19% 5% 1 1 0 4 1 3 -3 0 -3
Head-to-head
Past Matches
Comments:
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#1
Kenpi
8
Frags
+

Fnatic win

#2
Arisqq
-6
Frags
+

G2 2-1

#3
cyk
15
Frags
+

Ez for caps

#33
simby
12
Frags
+

wrong game

#4
bandwagondestroyer
-16
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+

nukkye and team gonna cry, g2 disband after this

#52
shinigamix
-2
Frags
+

I think G2's roster looks stronger. It will be easy for them to beat this game 2-0.

#62
bandwagondestroyer
0
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+

no pipson no party

#5
sussybaka
0
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+

banger.

#6
mephisto
1
Frags
+

Fnatic 2-1

#7
kocunar
10
Frags
+

Wunder vs his old team

#16
nikoko07
0
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+

what

#34
GlennU
0
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+

League reference.. xd

#41
nikoko07
1
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+

i know but... xd

#8
Unsicklaupedy
0
Frags
+

Fnatic 2-0

#9
junior
1
Frags
+

Fnatic 2-0

#10
ihsazal
0
Frags
+

Fanatic

#11
Areyannnnn
-3
Frags
+

Breezing through this #fncwin

#12
pokedyo
1
Frags
+

g2 2-1

#13
Lenei
4
Frags
+

Rivalry once again

#14
nikoko07
3
Frags
+

g2-0 lets gooooo

#15
nikoko07
1
Frags
+

kkkkkk

#17
cripsy
4
Frags
+

ez4derke

#53
shinigamix
0
Frags
+

GΓΌmledim buna

#18
Victor__
-1
Frags
+

G2 - 1 FNC

#19
valorantCANbeWAYbetter
3
Frags
+

so ez for BRAVEAFb0jjjjjjj

#20
Never_Wrong
0
Frags
+

Why fnc higher odds? Shouldn't they be favorites here?

#21
wawter
1
Frags
+

G2-0

#22
Rizvi
0
Frags
+

Damn G2 has 8 different nationalities in their roster
if we include sub and the coaching staff

#23
HaSanity
0
Frags
+

SO HYPED FOR THIS GAME

#24
sussybaka
1
Frags
+

3D 7H left for this banger match HYPERPOGGERS

#25
jajajaja
2
Frags
+

derke farming keloggs

#26
Sem1-
1
Frags
+

Let's go fnatic

#27
S0v4k
4
Frags
+

Can't wait to see how braveaf will perform!!

#28
Akaxashi
2
Frags
+

fnatic ftw!

#29
st0len
1
Frags
+

Fnatic 2-1G2 #FNCWIN

#30
CalypsoGHC
1
Frags
+

Fnatic 2-1
Still praying for demigod Nukkye

#31
paanuu
2
Frags
+

when does TSM play?

#32
bdzez
-10
Frags
+

EZ for G2 unless FNC swaps out Boaster for literally anyone

#35
DZTRUKTR
8
Frags
+

yeah, get rid of your IGL, good idea bro

#36
bdzez
-5
Frags
+

replace him with mwzera

#37
WiseGorbachev
11
Frags
+

Boaster>mwzera ((unironically))

#40
bdzez
-5
Frags
+

delusional

#43
KlobotXXL
10
Frags
+

but this ratio ain't

#48
trembolonaRage
0
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+

hahahaha
you are delusional

#38
RG
0
Frags
+

wtf the odds are absurd fnc ez win

#46
LouBag
0
Frags
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I was thinking this too.

Kinda juicy odds for FNC

#39
DELUSIONAL_G2_FAN
2
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g2 2-0 keloqz jett diffs atleast 60 kills on all 3 maps

#42
Galivor
-1
Frags
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Both are really bad compared to the other teams in their group, the one who has more firepower will win, G2 I guess, but if derke is on fire, who knows

#44
Paftie
0
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2-1 fnatic or g2

#45
wizardbot
1
Frags
+

FNC 2-1 G2 or vice versa

#47
ramazanGG
3
Frags
+

FNC 2 1

#49
trembolonaRage
-1
Frags
+

??????????????????

INSANE odds for fnatic, literally
thanks once again mixwell/g2 fanboys

#109
leleuu
0
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reserved

#113
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
0
Frags
+

common trembolonaRage W

#50
Netero
0
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+

G2 2-1

#51
1ucid
0
Frags
+

ez fnc

#54
snowild
2
Frags
+

G2 ban Fracture; FNC ban Split (maybe Breeze); G2 pick Ascent; FNC pick Icebox; Bind remains
FNC 2-1 G2

#55
kaguya
3
Frags
+

LET'S GO FNATIC

#56
Toxin
3
Frags
+

FNC Ftw

#57
Ichinose
1
Frags
+

FNC 2 - 1 G2
2 close games, Derke on top +17

#58
sussybaka
0
Frags
+

3+ hours left to watch this banger match UwU

#59
TotorLaks
-1
Frags
+

.

#60
rki
2
Frags
+

g2 fans rlly down voting the comments πŸ˜‚

#61
AMGAMES
0
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+

G2 2-1 FNC

#63
Daniveus
1
Frags
+

FNC 26-0 not even close, just ff

#73
kwe
0
Frags
+

That's too harsh I'd say fnc 26-3,5

#64
Infiltrator_______
0
Frags
+

Go G2

#65
BLuko
0
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+

2-1 G2. Fnatic had a roster change so expected to have a shaky performance initially. If Liquid looks shaky on map 1 of their series then there is no doubt this might happen the same to fnatic.

#66
KIPI
0
Frags
+

Ez odds for FNA

#67
DARZY
1
Frags
+

we are fucked

#68
WiseGorbachev
0
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+

FNC 2-1 imo

#69
NotTheSparky
1
Frags
+

G2 2-1 Atleast 1 MAP will go to Overtime

#70
SirMcNugg3t
0
Frags
+

lesgoo fnatic 2-0 ez

#71
Krychuu
3
Frags
+

im curious how braveaf will handle the pressure
on his debut

#72
queueK
0
Frags
+

Fnatic 2-0. Easiest match for Derke + Boaster + russiabro

#74
bambamskrrt
1
Frags
+

that guy brave is nastyyyy

#75
BARRYALLEN
0
Frags
+

Keloqz 1v9 as always kek

#76
Bjorn_Bernarsson
1
Frags
+

B splits on icebox just don’t work, why do people keep trying them?

#77
Dieguzz00
1
Frags
+

Bangggg 7-5 8-11πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€‘πŸ€‘

#78
ValdemieGC
2
Frags
+

I feel like both team's comps are way, waaay outdated on Icebox :/
Strong at holding sites but I'd like to see some Kayo or Chamber (as secondary awp) instead of Killjoy tbh

At least FNC is actually doing great at holding sites
G2 slipped on defense way too much

#90
Ibis
1
Frags
+

It’s because meddo can’t play anything else than sentinels. Not a well rounded player

#119
Mik0
1
Frags
+

I can see why FNC wouldn't run chamber unless they feel confident, but I can def see G2 using him on icebox because they have the players to do that but again the Meddo issue might be the reason why

#120
ValdemieGC
0
Frags
+

yeah I agree
I actually don't remember Meddo playing anything that isn't Killjoy/Cypher. It seems like he relies way too much on kj, which is a boomer, because they are missing on soo many almost OP agents right now. G2 is just out of meta.

Also they are letting nukkye igl... which is clearly G2's best player, he's being sooo wasted on Sova IGL, they opted to bring hoody instead of a proper Sova for the team. G2 is just a mess, and they've been a mess for months and months. Also avova has been underperforming so much lately.

#123
Mik0
-1
Frags
+

I want this team to succeed but these roster moves dont help the team if they are motivated by performances only. The keloqz benching period kinda made sense as it was more than performance but the sudden move back to the roster makes me believe it was the org's decision. If that is the case I think the org is not on the right mindset and should be working with what they had to make a tier 1 team and not just throwing the bag with buyouts from successful teams.

#79
Dieguzz00
-1
Frags
+

1-8 runπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€‘πŸ€‘πŸ€‘

#80
1ucid
0
Frags
+

just 2ez

#81
PapaCelot
4
Frags
+

nice debut for braveaf in the first map

#82
Gunzout97
1
Frags
+

Dat boy brave cold

#83
n1kkobami
1
Frags
+

G2 all negative. Lol

#84
Niizexx
4
Frags
+

i think braveaf making a great performance on his 1st game and boaster being boaster lol

#85
PapaCelot
0
Frags
+

yea boaster being boaster lol
that 4k clutch is sick tho

#86
Kandinsky
1
Frags
+

online mistic hits different

#87
ciro
4
Frags
+

59 HS% for braveaf what the actual fuck

#88
ValdemieGC
0
Frags
+

πŸ₯ΆπŸ₯Ά

#89
trembolonaRage
-3
Frags
+

Trembolona Was Right Again? :>

2x in the most big matches on EMEA

#92
CalOtter
0
Frags
+

Wow the two better teams won

#95
trembolonaRage
-1
Frags
+

that was not what the comments above said + fnatic was underdog in this match by odds

#93
ValdemieGC
0
Frags
+

Pat youself on the head on my part trembo
You deserved it

#91
Fonxy
0
Frags
+

G2 is just victims without mixwell

#94
p1lot
3
Frags
+

Mixwell was not the problem KEKW

#96
ValdemieGC
3
Frags
+

Fnatic doing things how it should be done actually

Everyone doubted boaster and mini about braveaf, and he delivered

I just now remembered hoody saying that fnatic were shit online on the vid released yesterday. Well, G2 could learn 1 or 2 things about fnatic to be honest.

#97
lordooohyeaa
0
Frags
+

FNC 2-0

#98
Dieguzz00
-1
Frags
+

1-12 runnnn let’s go professional valorantπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€‘πŸ€‘πŸ€‘πŸ€‘πŸ€‘

#99
vZasko
0
Frags
+

meddo?

#100
Dieguzz00
-1
Frags
+

4-17 and countinggggg letsgo professional playersssssssssssπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€‘

#101
Never_Wrong
0
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+

Nice

Good job boys

But can you win without giving me heart attacks please

#102
bambamskrrt
1
Frags
+

the curse hit them

#103
GODWELL
0
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+

nice chocked

#107
number_1_poach_fan
-3
Frags
+

Nice spelling

#139
GODWELL
0
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+

lmao you dnt know who is chocked xD imagine winning 9-3 and loose xD

#104
acels1
0
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+

9-3

#105
BigBrainf
2
Frags
+

curse hits again

#106
trembolonaRage
0
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+

unbelievable choke

#108
mr_patel
1
Frags
+

I don't care what anyone says. The 9-3 curse is the realest shit in Valorant.

#110
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
0
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+

Good to see brave doing well so far. G2 roster is not bad either, they put up a good fight.

#111
Dieguzz00
-3
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+

Yessssss fabulous comeback in map 2 just to go 7-6 8-12πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚PROFESSIONAL VALORANT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

#114
lolkekchebyrek
2
Frags
+

stfu already u crying baby lmao

#116
bambamskrrt
2
Frags
+

you good bro?

#112
Never_Wrong
0
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+

GG

#117
ValdemieGC
0
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+

I see you've already given up on G2 too

I like it :')

Come to guild bro

Edit: wait nvm I though you removed your flair, but I think it's because vlr.gg imploded kekw

#121
Never_Wrong
0
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+

The fact that you thought I'd ever give up on G2 really saddens me πŸ˜”

Ye it's vlr bug, it doesn't show flairs

#122
ValdemieGC
0
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cmon man... they have been a mess for so long now... there is no win over sen that is able to convince me otherwise.

Some problems:

  1. Meddo can't play other agent that isn't kj, and it looks like a miracle he's being able to play cypher as well, even when he plays kj he don't convince me much, this is making G2's comp so misserable and out of meta
  2. They needed a proper Sova on the team and they instead brough hoody, a flex player, great job if u ask me
  3. They are putting the best player in the team, nukkye, as a Sova IGL, he would be perfect as the flex/second duelist player. He on IGL duties is bringing him down.
  4. They keep kicking the wrong players over and over again.
  5. Keloqz was and is still a gamble, you never know if he is going to play well or not
  6. Pipson things you are going to deny me, so let's ignore this point for the moment xd
  7. They now have to kick again some more players, to be precise, the players that they just brought to the team kekw (if they want to perform again, of course)
  8. Avova has been underperforming too and he is not bringing nothing of value to the team
  9. also guild kinda based tho and Leo is GOAT, it's comfy being a GUILD fan
  10. Oh I forgot apparently I'm a mixwell fanboy too so fuck G2 I guess?
#124
Never_Wrong
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I can only laugh at those points bro. The fact that you're portraying those as somehwhat sufficient reasons to switch teams already tells enough.

It's not that deep, it's not that relevant, it's not as you're portraying it (oversimplifying or cherry-picking) and you're reading too much into it.

You're telling me not only to gloryhunt, but root for an org that loses -11M year just to have a washed 90's football player as their brand icon. Istg dude

#125
ValdemieGC
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if you don't like my points try to refute them brother
that's how a ~fruitful~ debate should work

yes, i'm telling you to root for David Beckham and suck his dick too if you are in the mood

#126
Never_Wrong
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Why do you want to debate me on opinions and me supporting G2 as an org as a whole, why should I care about any of that 😭

They have their competitive principles, those remain unchanged and will forever stand by their own values, which is nothing else but to become the greatest at everything while having fun along the way. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but they'll always know better. We live, we learn, we laugh it off.

It really is not that deep cmon.

#127
ValdemieGC
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because G2 sucks bro and you should give them honest criticism if u want them to improve

otherwise they'll keep sucking like this

#128
Never_Wrong
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Read edit reply.

And no, thank you, I'm not enjoying free entertainment to become an arrogant pleb turned wannabe analyst criticizing the team I "support" for no beneficial reason whatsoever.

I'll leave that to the parasocial weirdos and SoMe "analysts" out there with their clueless takes, talking about matters they're not involved in as of their lives depended on it

I doubt pro players get the best pro advices by lurking vlr tho...

#129
ValdemieGC
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I read it and you are doing nothing but convincing me you are Carlos, maybe his son or his wife HAHA

Ok, keep being loyal to them if it's what makes you happy, but at least don't lie to youself, G2 suck right now and you won't win any shit by licking their balls and perineum

#131
Never_Wrong
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Man you can't even keep up with your own narrative. You presented that as a list for ME to stop cheering for G2 (a bit obsessed trying to superimpose your views onto others purely driven by emotional reasons, calm down) and you end up deviating and adding up unrelated points such as you being a Mixwell fanboy??? Ok?

Why are you telling me what to do and who to criticize as if we'd ever get to know how teams operate from within, as if they weren't pros already or as if I give a single fuck?

I like something, I support. Why would I ever talk shit when I could just move on to a completely different thing

Nobody is forcing me to. Why should I act in a condescending way demanding shit to people that doesn't owe me nothing & to whom I'm getting free entertainment (and others) from in exchange? Grow up...

The problem is not how we think a team plays a videogame. That's at the bottom of the list

#132
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if you don't like my points try to refute them brother
that's how a ~fruitful~ debate should work

Try to explain my POV

you are Carlos, maybe his son or his wife HAHA

Ok Sayf.

Really good point at the end! Keep projecting and acting like you can read minds if that makes you sleep better at night :o

pffaaahaha man, I'm just messing with you cmon, you know it. Obviously I don't know who is behind the monitor rn. It's just that it makes me laugh the points that you bring in, like the Beckham's one, do you thing I really care who owns a certain team, or how they manage their economy? lmao
I'm like Sayf except my english is shit and I'm clearly a spaniard, but it was funny I'll give you that.

brobro i'm not trying to read minds, I'm sorry if it looked like that but maybe... you are reading too much as well. Chill Carlos.

You are clearly giving importance to the convo otherwise you wouldn't still be here. That's why I brought the Carlos joke. You are defending them like your life depends on em 😭 it's all fun and banter but you like to keep the conv up. You must be def. employed by them or they are blackmailing u

#133
Never_Wrong
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do you thing I really care who own a certain team, or how they manage their economy?

Maybe you can understand now that we give relevance to different stuff and I'd rather see the bigger picture of things, meaning I couldn't care less about your aforementioned comments?

Whatever dude. Nothing I didn't say everytime I've had a convo with you before in different threads. Shit gets repetitive. Waste of time indeed. Cya

#134
ValdemieGC
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I'm sorry you feel this way tho...

I'll keep that in mind for the next time: you like G2 and dislike Manchester United or smth

anyway good convo Carlos. bring some IGL please? ty

#135
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It really gets boring, Koldamenta, cba. Hope you're getting paid this month

What you've kept in mind didn't match reality most of the times throughout our convos so I'm glad this time you're getting it right.

Yes, I enjoy the esports organisation G2 :o. Amazing fact!!!

(Hold on lemme edit Sayf for Kolda real quick)

#136
ValdemieGC
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that's a sin in my book

#115
Dieguzz00
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Dirty cancer of an org

#118
Adri98
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Pipson method is not working

#140
GODWELL
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only say one thing. FACTS maybe meddo put on his monitor xD because avova play 2 agents not confortable

#137
unchained66x
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rip G2 unless BBL/SMB upset someone which is unlikely

#138
ValorantViewers
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Overview of VCT EMEA matches:
https://youtube.com/channel/UCW4_ZECviOqClmtgjOF4i2g

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