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Give Thailand their own vcl league back

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#1
xineFso

They’re genuinely too good both thai teams in Grand Final with both of them only losing once to each other

it’s unfair to other sea regions

#2
JawXG
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Mega L statement icl

Because 2 pac teams were in the GF of masters santiago does that mean we should have masters Pacific and masters rest of the world?

#3
xineFso
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I would hope so if it’s possible since the pacific regional playoffs was more competitive than whatever that last masters was

#4
Galactc
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apac delusion at its finest

#5
xineFso
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flag flair lol memea losing to ch0na

#6
CinnamonStew34s
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i love Kadoomgoat as much as the next guy but stop larping 555

#7
xineFso
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We larping laughing now

#12
inuis
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santiago was by far the least competitive weve had since tokyo though. only nrg prx and ns looked like they were going to win and every other team looked shambolic

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Galactc
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Yeah sure it was but that doesn't make the initial take any less delusional it was only less competitive because the number of rookie teams that came

#16
inuis
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but they were also rookies in kickoff and that didnt seem to matter though, emea and cn dont have coherent rosters which means that their best teams are the rookie ones

honestly either dfm drx or rrq couldve made top 6 in this tournament

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bbl almost beat nrg don’t forget

#37
inuis
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almost

#8
shrike-
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might as well since they’re hopeless in tier 1

#9
xineFso
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I’ll definitely comeback to this when they win stage 1 and london lol

#10
shrike-
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no, they’ll bomb out and you’ll disappear again

#11
Castawaytwizz
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i asked thailand to produce a good player and they said ขอโทษครับ ทำไม่ได้ครับพี่ all we have is ranked montages and youtube short clips

#13
xineFso
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bro

#14
CinnamonStew34s
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tis gotta be bait, thailand has so many good shooters

#17
Marii
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Fully cursed 555 dawg wtf is wrong with you

#18
nutab1e
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Lmfaooo

#20
SiwooHaechok
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It's a skill how he curses every Thai team he supports to be honest

#19
Reimsy
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son 😭

#21
CinnamonStew34s
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I'm thanking xine for the curse

#23
Reimsy
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imagine motiv wins the final now

#22
suklaamies699
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wtf are you talking about? they're not both in the grand finals, one of them is, and the other one is motiv.

and btw, isn't this their own league? https://www.vlr.gg/event/2821/challengers-2026-sea-split-1-thailand-qualifier

everyone's playing in a similar regional qualifier now, it's not like they're somehow lacking from any other region

#24
CinnamonStew34s
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No all of SEA has one league the qualifiers exist only to qualify to sea challengers and don't contribute to road to champions points at all

#27
suklaamies699
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so you're basically telling me the op just wants free points for thai teams to boost them for a spot in the eventual last chance qualifier for the pacific stage 2 play-in? gotcha

btw this point system seems irrelevant as fuck anyway, it literally exists to decide one single spot out of all these teams if i understand it correctly

#31
PP12123213123
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https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2025/Southeast_Asia/Split_3/Playoffs

Last year, half of SEA VCL teams were Thai, and 4 out of 6 in the final playoff for Ascension were Thai teams. This year, they removed relegation and promotion, limiting Thai VCL to only two teams. Yeah 555 and SP are performing well, but a Thai third fourth or even fifth seed deserves to be here too. Vietnam ain’t even winning BO3s against Thai 5th/6th seed, but they still get same slots lol

#33
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yeah man, honestly... i think ya'll just might be a little delusional or biased, but you should definitely not give them their own league, that's not a solution. if you want to fix the problem you think exists here, you should give more teams from all the regions a chance to play against each other for spots in the SEA split, or just invite more teams from each region directly to the split. But don't fucking give thailand their own region to farm points in or give them more spots than others because they're "so much better", that's not it man. Give all regions more chances to play against each other, and we'll see which teams from which regions really deserve the spots and the points, problem solved ez

#36
PP12123213123
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Just bring back relegation and promotion

#26
PP12123213123
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NKT or XGOD are better than 60% of sea vcl

#25
PP12123213123
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Give FS back to thai vcl 😭

#28
FNSaimcoach9
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entire thai vct scene being carried by pr0mm0 btw

#30
CringeMeister
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#32
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VCT TH

#34
koalanoob1
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saying this while Thai team never won ascencion is crazy

#35
Thegreat
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I hope you remember both thai teams won a combined 2/8 games last ascension.

#38
Raize1
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Who's IGLing 555? Also endoist looks really good

#39
Castawaytwizz
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bump

#40
CinnamonStew34s
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bumping after the loss is diabolical, still nt the thai teams are my fav after motiv and fcy

#41
PP12123213123
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F0nc0

#43
MrBlooBloom
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they're fun to watch you gotta give them that, they've got cracked aim as well

#44
gordonramsay
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fancy beat boom at predator league tho

#45
PP12123213123
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BME finished last place in sea vcl 😭😭😭

#42
MrBlooBloom
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lmfao

#46
Anguibok
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Thai should not have a tier 2 region : But, you should have a tier 3 the same way nordic country have a tier 3 region. Splitting the huge SEA pool of team isnt good, more best ID-TH-MY-PH team have time together more they will improve, it's a bad idea to split. But yeah, under T2, you should have a Tier 3.

#47
CinnamonStew34s
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no countries have t3 bro, just open qualifiers regularly supported by premier + 3rd party cas cups

#48
Anguibok
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Ireland, UK, Norway, Finland, Sweden and Denmark have their own T3 league organised by the T2 TO

This model should be used by everyone.

#49
PP12123213123
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The Thai scene is way bigger than those European countries

#50
Anguibok
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Exactly, that's why we definitely need a T3

#51
PP12123213123
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I mean they shouldn't be tier3

#52
Anguibok
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Why so ? It's an excellent compromise since we cnat have too many T2, and some good subregion need to be represented.

#53
CinnamonStew34s
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hmm i only knew that japan and korea had t3 leagues (japan t2 teams have t3 acads) thanks for the info

#54
Anguibok
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T3 team, but not T3 leagues, sadfully

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