i will put out mine 1st

MY CONSIDERATIONS :-

how the IGL is regarded by the rest to his players

mid round calling

how much strat work and research they did and how well it worked

the visible impact an IGL has on a team(like they come and instantly the team is like 10x better)

their ability to make mid round adaptations when things are going down hill

IGL's ability to maintain good vibes and keep the team's mental together when they are getting boomed

manipulating the map and the flow of the game the best

how creative the IGL is

sheer fragging power

these are by best to worst

NA
1 vanity
2 ShaZham
3 FNS
4 steel
5 poised

EU
1 Redgar
2 boaster
3 davidp
4 bonecold
5 koldamenta

APAC
1 Stax
2 benkai
3 PTC
4 foxz
5 idk?

LATAM and BRAZIL
1 klaus
2 saadhak
3 Murizzz.
4 Nozwer
5 idk?

*tbh im not to familiar with latam/br and apac so yeah happy roasting

Hellrangerrrrrrr

Best igl is subroza

Stax in SEA????

stax not from SEA bro

SRY ABT THAT

Where sa?
Maybe you should just put apac

DeluluGavin [#4]

Stax in SEA????

he prolly meant APAC

Jhow isn’t IGL, is Murizzz.
Nozwer is Furia’s igl

where's my man GODKAR at?

shyftnot [#11]

where's my man GODKAR at?

Godkar u mean

shyftnot [#11]

where's my man GODKAR at?

fraging power*

k im dumb

Thomaslee [#13]

Godkar u mean

sry i will fix that.

anyway does anyone else want to post their list?

murizzz and nzr are their teams' respective igls and wtf is poiz doing here?

Thomaslee [#8]

Where sa?
Maybe you should just put apac

k will change

gutszeraa [#18]

murizzz and nzr are their teams' respective igls and wtf is poiz doing here?

recent performance

Kk0bra [#19]

k will change

All good brotha u changed it already

where is dephh in best igls in na. he's top 1!

Kk0bra [#20]

recent performance

LMFAO

greedeetv [#22]

where is dephh in best igls in na. he's top 1!

in my hm's

gutszeraa [#23]

LMFAO

lcq run bro + i took vanity at his word so yeah

Kk0bra [#25]

lcq run bro + i took vanity at his word so yeah

8/8

Kk0bra [#24]

in my hm's

well, i'll be honest, it's kind of a shit list. i know you're tracking fragging power but that's not the job of an igl unless they are playing a duelist. plus poiz was never that good.

my list:

1. dephh
2. Shahzam
3. FNS
4. steel
5. vanity

greedeetv [#27]

well, i'll be honest, it's kind of a shit list. i know you're tracking fragging power but that's not the job of an igl unless they are playing a duelist. plus poiz was never that good.

my list:

1. dephh
2. Shahzam
3. FNS
4. steel
5. vanity

how do u not have vanity in that list

jimjam789 [#28]

how do u not have vanity in that list

forgot about him. honestly not noticeable.

POIZ

gutszeraa [#18]

murizzz and nzr are their teams' respective igls and wtf is poiz doing here?

NA

1. Shahzam
2. Vanity
3. FNS
4. Steel
5. Dephh

EMEA

1. Redgar
2. Bonecold
3. DavidP
4. Boaster
5. Koldamenta

BR/LATAM

1. Klaus
2. Saadhak
3. Murizzz
4. Nzr
5. Fra

Thomaslee [#2]

Hellrangerrrrrrr

Hellranger is a tactical genius. He is best known for his signature tactic "Rossi go kill". He also has a second little known tactic of "Rossi dead - friends go save". What an absolute legend. Top 3 IGL for sure.

ShahZ at 2
I was like hmm and then I saw according to vlr users and then I’m like ahh ok that explains the brainlet pick

BR/LATAM:

1. Klaus
2. Saadhak
3. Murizz
4. Nozwerr
5. Xand

BONKAR

SUPERJAMPPI

"IGL's ability to maintain good vibes and keep the team's mental together when they are getting boomed"

This is mostly not the IGLs job as far as im aware. In TL its scream and in 100T its hiko (also sort of asuna)

I sort of agree with your NA list (expect poiz because I never watched him)
But not having jamppi in EUs top 5?

Jamppi is arguably the best fragging igl in eu, he deserves to be on this list.

Every heard of Shanks_NA the qb sneak

Btw it's POISED not poiz. POISED is the IGL and sentinel main of Rise. poiz is the former jett player for C9B and the current jett player for C9 Academy. Anyways for NA imo it's:

1. ShahZaM
2. fns
3. vanity
4. POISED
5. dephh(Better individually then the 3 above him but the 3 above him are better callers imo)

pAura > All undisputed.

KIPI [#41]

pAura > All undisputed.

Super massive balls lessgooo

poiz?

oh u mean poised

ShadowisBAD [#33]

ShahZ at 2
I was like hmm and then I saw according to vlr users and then I’m like ahh ok that explains the brainlet pick

Impact, as much as I love shahz vanity is just better in the mid round and he's the better caller , plus he's the only igl u can say "oh the team is got 100x better because of vanity "

PrTsty [#37]

"IGL's ability to maintain good vibes and keep the team's mental together when they are getting boomed"

This is mostly not the IGLs job as far as im aware. In TL its scream and in 100T its hiko (also sort of asuna)

I sort of agree with your NA list (expect poiz because I never watched him)
But not having jamppi in EUs top 5?

Cause liquid has a more spread out calling structure, also jamppi is not really into the strategy side of things

Fat_Lard [#40]

Btw it's POISED not poiz. POISED is the IGL and sentinel main of Rise. poiz is the former jett player for C9B and the current jett player for C9 Academy. Anyways for NA imo it's:

1. ShahZaM
2. fns
3. vanity
4. POISED
5. dephh(Better individually then the 3 above him but the 3 above him are better callers imo)

Yeah abt that(I'm messed up)

unknown_trash [#38]

Jamppi is arguably the best fragging igl in eu, he deserves to be on this list.

Not the best strategy or calling igl tho

MilanTheMyth [#36]

SUPERJAMPPI

Jamppi is such an under appreciated and underated player. the guy can play anyone and do AMAZING

redgar's posture buff > all igl

KIPI [#41]

pAura > All undisputed.

Acend owns u

Kk0bra [#48]

Not the best strategy or calling igl tho

I have seen a bit of an improvement from tl when he started igling though. I think his mid round calling is really good too since liquid are good at adapting.

Ngl the best igl in the whole Game was ex6tenz in nip. While He was the igl nip Beat the undefeatable g2 (mixwell, pyth, davidp etc.) Twice. He was a Legend in cs and without his Hand issues He were one in valo for Sure too

useless tierlist. a better one would have an example from each category you mentioned.

WHERE IS JAMPPI BROTHER????

Tobee [#55]

WHERE IS JAMPPI BROTHER????

Even if his team has done well he's not even a IGL for more than 4 months.

Kk0bra [#45]

Impact, as much as I love shahz vanity is just better in the mid round and he's the better caller , plus he's the only igl u can say "oh the team is got 100x better because of vanity "

Shahzam would 1000% make a team better we just haven't seen that since hes only been on sentinels

HaSanity [#54]

useless tierlist. a better one would have an example from each category you mentioned.

yeah, nice idea

CRAZY_CHAINSAW_MAN_FAN [#57]

Shahzam would 1000% make a team better we just haven't seen that since hes only been on sentinels

not to the same level as vanity

Thomaslee [#42]

Super massive balls lessgooo

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh nice one

Only_Facts [#56]

Even if his team has done well he's not even a IGL for more than 4 months.

They literally brought him in in February to IGL in replacement of ec1s, no? Was somone else IGLing when he joined?

poised is not it

According to what people say is Pipson the one creating a system allowing anyone to be IGL, or more kind of a strat caller, so I would take down Davidp and put Jamppi

CalypsoGHC [#3]

Best igl is subroza

no cap

unknown_trash [#52]

I have seen a bit of an improvement from tl when he started igling though. I think his mid round calling is really good too since liquid are good at adapting.

Liquid has different roles for pre round calling mid round calling and post plants so u cant decide whether they have a single IGL or not

Tobee [#61]

They literally brought him in in February to IGL in replacement of ec1s, no? Was somone else IGLing when he joined?

No, no, he was Jett op, but he wasn't a good jett at all, so they put him in controler and sometimes jett.
Scream was the igl those times (half with soulcas if im not wrong), there it is his famous "NA is predctable" in Iceland.

SA -
Amaterasu
HellrangeR
antidote
psy
HsB

Tehbotol are good. And as much we hate it, flipzjder are good igl. Dude are very smart at reading his opponent. Everytime dude become igl his team won like beating prx in previous tourney

fatpoipoiiii [#68]

Tehbotol are good. And as much we hate it, flipzjder are good igl. Dude are very smart at reading his opponent. Everytime dude become igl his team won like beating prx in previous tourney

Flipjidder toxic indo

Mortadelo [#63]

According to what people say is Pipson the one creating a system allowing anyone to be IGL, or more kind of a strat caller, so I would take down Davidp and put Jamppi

well the problem with that is liquid has a calling structure in which multiple players make the calls (scream , soulcas and sometimes nivera) , while davidp does(did) more of the heavy lifting on gaints (and i am a sucker for good lurkers so yeah , the fact that he has a lurking playstyle that has worked for this long really amazes me)

thatpower [#62]

poised is not it

may be , but with poised im taking rise's lcq performance and im also taking vanity's word for it with him , if not for those 2 dephh would def be at 4 or 5

gutszeraa [#31]

NA

1. Shahzam
2. Vanity
3. FNS
4. Steel
5. Dephh

EMEA

1. Redgar
2. Bonecold
3. DavidP
4. Boaster
5. Koldamenta

BR/LATAM

1. Klaus
2. Saadhak
3. Murizzz
4. Nzr
5. Fra

id say switch Davidp and Boaster and then the list is ∞/∞

would move fns to top 2
bonecold to top 2, koldamenta to top 3
nozwerr to top 1/2

ZoldyK [#65]

Liquid has different roles for pre round calling mid round calling and post plants so u cant decide whether they have a single IGL or not

they did before, now they decided to make jamppi call and he is getting a lot of help from sliggy to improve his igling, they said it themselves that they dont have every1 calling anymore

Kk0bra [#70]

well the problem with that is liquid has a calling structure in which multiple players make the calls (scream , soulcas and sometimes nivera) , while davidp does(did) more of the heavy lifting on gaints (and i am a sucker for good lurkers so yeah , the fact that he has a lurking playstyle that has worked for this long really amazes me)

not true, they did before but now they changed that and made jamppi igl, jamppi has been IGL since EMEA Challenger Finals Stage 3, they made the switch to only one IGL because they were readable af at times and simply not a good idea for top level play

NA:

1. ShahZaM
2. fns
3. vanity
4. POISED
5. dephh
   EMEA:
   1) Redgar
   2) Jamppi
   3) Boaster
   4) BONECOLD
   5) pAura

Kk0bra [#70]

well the problem with that is liquid has a calling structure in which multiple players make the calls (scream , soulcas and sometimes nivera) , while davidp does(did) more of the heavy lifting on gaints (and i am a sucker for good lurkers so yeah , the fact that he has a lurking playstyle that has worked for this long really amazes me)

What I’m telling you is that Giants did the same, Davidp was a regular IGL. Actually Mixwell didn’t wanna IGL and even less now that he is gonna be duelist, which makes it way harder, but Pipson system makes it different and easier