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Sean Garres a liar? Or Riot lizards

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#1
TeoEmil

Wouldn’t be the first time RIOT did something shady

First they preform a biased investigation of a pro player called “Sinatraa”

Then they proceed to rob brazilians off maps and rounds for years

In recent years they’ve done everything in their power to hide and damage control anything related to Flordiddy

If wouldn’t be a stretch to say that they have men in suits controlling Sean garres to protect the narrative of their competitive integrity

What are your thoughts

#2
Hynix
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nah this is a rare case where it's not even riots fault seangares is jus stupid, ruined 👑queen bob's team

#8
TeoEmil
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Who the hell

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sentinelmain377
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W teo

#3
Tabularasa
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I think it's an annoying middle ground. Sean clearly showed that there are people betting and at the very least trying to match fix, so riots statement doesn't sounds great with that knowledge but also i don't think they can find enough evidence prove it to avoid a defamation suit.

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But it wouldn’t explain why sean (sgares) gares is refusing to comment on anything, has blacklisted the word valorant from his twitch and is now religiously watching blatantly rigged cs2 tier 2 matches

Riot got him in the electric chair and they’re holding him accountable if he ever interacts with their game again

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it could be that they threatened him with a slap lawsuit or something. it could also be that he realized his source was bad and thinks that he could hint that riot is doing something shady fault in order to dodge accountability for the video. unless someone comes forward we can't know for sure

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He shouldn't have done it tbh. Assuming that one person "ruined" the exposure he was going to do. Supposedly.

#6
kfan4238173
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we support sgares 🤞

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sentinelmain377
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we support sgares 🤞

#9
Effluxi
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how to discredit your own argument immediately 101

#10
Dudhi
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effluxi just let it go, i've seen you everywhere tryna inform others that this isn't a grand conspiracy. i agree with you but you have to understand that conspiracy theorists will exist everywhere you go and its not worth your time.

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TM06Nick
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i just think the T2 players should've been smarter instead of greedy but as a young player you are not thinking about collecting info to report to Riot you are probably just being a greedy fuck and making money however you can because its not "illegal"

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DBStudios
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Didn't riot comment they were doing an "investigation" on the flor situation but somehow even with everything that has been put out nothing has been released yet?

Plus there was clear evidence of betting going on so their comment of "found nothing" doesn't really make any sense at all. Riot is a giant company so seangares stepping back isn't a completely unreasonable thing to do after accusing them and their scene, plus with all of this out bob hasn't made a comment about it or returned to tier 2 either

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TeoEmil
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It’s ran by lizard people fr

#13
justo
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Something fishy went on for sure but sean gares messed up heavily. He brought up interesting stuff with some of the bets that were happening and it seems like people were getting offered money to throw. Throwing specific accusations with no evidence was his mistake especially with one of them essentially being a complaint about how a team can play like shit and then go insane against his team. He should've tried to get more evidence and then go directly to riot. If they ignored him then go ahead and make the video without the SRB stuff and with whatever extra evidence he could have gotten over time

#14
Ballsamolee
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Yeah I felt like if he cut it off with the bray and crypto stuff, he could have a lot more support.

#15
penpen
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the issue was that the mr funhaver or whatever his name was, was talking about it anyway which can make the organizers of the betting ring be more elusive. i get why he sped up the video and it was just a taster, but do totally agree it seems biased to us when its the team hes on, just sounds sour about the loss

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justo
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I agree. Anything that brought the situation to light too early was a mistake

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Vgb
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I belive riot didn't said "there's nothing happening" but they repeatedly said "there's not enough evidence"

So I feel like there's definitely something wrong but I don't know where to put my finger on it.

#17
CrackedDuelist
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after sean gares released the video, it was obvious that the fixers would have stopped doing this for a while to avoid the investigation, resulting in no concrete/ not enough evidence to be found

#26
targuin
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Imo that'll just be the analytics results being run through pr
Basically the investigation will have used statistical significance, during which they reached a number insignificant enough (in UX design it'd generally be P>=0.1, but no clue exactly what tests -> thresholds they used) to not report it.

So "nothing happened" is correct, although its trying to say "nothing statistically significant happened"
(But as you can guess that becomes annoying af to always say so the first is used a lot, even when talking to math+stat masters while I was at uni)

#18
SleepingSnorlax
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Riot walking the path of blizzard hiding secrets

#25
TeoEmil
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Nepobaby aware

#19
zzzzzzzzz4321
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investigation was them emailing the players

#22
AlexSMTx
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"h-hey ummm... di- did you perhaps p-participate in any match fixing?"

"no"

"o- oh okay sorry for intruding player s-sempai"

#24
Ronyko23
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Fair farmed srb again. I guess sean gares was just GiGA coping.

#28
SudokuDude
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lol the Sinatraa and Flor situation is why people don't learn. You're not wrong about Riot... but why when they finally do something correct with Flor's allegations, it's an issue?

#29
penpen
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have they even done anything tho? i dont remember seeing a tweet about it since they said they investigated

#30
SudokuDude
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Unlike with Sinatraa where they just suspend him immediately, they actually decided to investigate without jumping the gun. Idk if Flor did the SA but at least she admitted to being a cringe teen at the time.

#31
TeoEmil
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Delusional

#32
SudokuDude
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Good rebuttal

#33
TeoEmil
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Thanks

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