lmfao they lose once in a tier 2 tournament and suddently they are bad? remember when they lost that 13-1 to SMB in the playoffs and still won EMEA challengers and then masters 3? Fnatic and Gambit are still way better than all teams except for top NA and other top EMEA teams.
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bayern munich is probably the best football team in the world and they lost 5-0 in their league, but no one is calling them shit, because fans know how scary bayern is at champions league and even in Bayern's own league.
this is just like that: gambit lost 13-0 and we're prone to call them shit, but let's not forget they served up vision strikers, 13-0'd G2 on lan, and beat NA's hope Envy 3-0. we know how good gambit is, so it makes no sense to call them shit.
but yk, people needa have kneejerk reactions.
FightWasTaken [#6]they lose to a good team like acend and suddenly people are flaming gambit... people think acend is a bad team because of the 100t fluke or what?
They also lost to LDN UTD. Not saying Gambit is bad, just clarifying.
FightWasTaken [#6]they lose to a good team like acend and suddenly people are flaming gambit... people think acend is a bad team because of the 100t fluke or what?
100T fluke? How's it a fluke to make 2 comebacks vs the top 2 EMEA teams? If they only made a comeback against Acend, then sure, you could call it a fluke but to also do it against the #1 team in the world. At that point, it isn't just a fluke. Stop being salty over something that happened months ago and making excuses for it and accept that you lost.
Fat_Lard [#8]100T fluke? How's it a fluke to make 2 comebacks vs the top 2 EMEA teams? If they only made a comeback against Acend, then sure, you could call it a fluke but to also do it against the #1 team in the world. At that point, it isn't just a fluke. Stop being salty over something that happened months ago and making excuses for it and accept that you lost.
it is a fluke when 100 thieves can't even qualify for champions against NA teams lmfao
Yeetus [#7]They also lost to LDN UTD. Not saying Gambit is bad, just clarifying.
in fracture tho, so its not really fair
Fat_Lard [#8]100T fluke? How's it a fluke to make 2 comebacks vs the top 2 EMEA teams? If they only made a comeback against Acend, then sure, you could call it a fluke but to also do it against the #1 team in the world. At that point, it isn't just a fluke. Stop being salty over something that happened months ago and making excuses for it and accept that you lost.
So why are they not in champions then? You can be a non delusional fan if you havent heard yet
FightWasTaken [#10]it is a fluke when 100 thieves can't even qualify for champions against NA teams lmfao
C9 just different
kristof [#13]Explain why would you call that a tier 1 tournament.
It has Acend, gambit, fnatic, team liquid, giants, G2, supermassive blaze, Nip
FightWasTaken [#10]it is a fluke when 100 thieves can't even qualify for champions against NA teams lmfao
What does LCQ have to do with Berlin? 100T had a different roster, IGL, and they switched up some roles. It's not the same team so idk what you're talking about. Obviously it's still 100T but that 100T team's win over Acend wasn't a fluke just because this new 100T team lost after some players can't stay healthy.
Fat_Lard [#19]What does LCQ have to do with Berlin? 100T had a different roster, IGL, and they switched up some roles. It's not the same team so idk what you're talking about. Obviously it's still 100T but that 100T team's win over Acend wasn't a fluke just because this new 100T team lost after some players can't stay healthy.
Ultimately, the results states that 100T is not in champions. That's all people care about, not a string of excuses.
Fat_Lard [#19]What does LCQ have to do with Berlin? 100T had a different roster, IGL, and they switched up some roles. It's not the same team so idk what you're talking about. Obviously it's still 100T but that 100T team's win over Acend wasn't a fluke just because this new 100T team lost after some players can't stay healthy.
100t changing roster really isn't an excuse when it was their choice to do it lol
jade_ [#23]100t changing roster really isn't an excuse when it was their choice to do it lol
It being there choice to change the roster has nothing to do with their Ws in Berlin tho. All I'm trying to say is that it wasn't a fluke for their roster at the time.
Blazieboy [#21]Ultimately, the results states that 100T is not in champions. That's all people care about, not a string of excuses.
I'm not giving excuses for why 100T isn't in Champions, all I'm saying is that beating Acend and Gambit isn't a fluke just because the new roster has gotten worse results. That would be like saying a pro sports team winning a championship was a fluke because they lost a key player or a few key players and didn't do well the next year.
Fat_Lard [#24]It being there choice to change the roster has nothing to do with their Ws in Berlin tho. All I'm trying to say is that it wasn't a fluke for their roster at the time.
fair enough it wasnt fluke we will see 100t vs ace at champions to confirm who is best
redlight [#3]bayern munich is probably the best football team in the world and they lost 5-0 in their league, but no one is calling them shit, because fans know how scary bayern is at champions league and even in Bayern's own league.
this is just like that: gambit lost 13-0 and we're prone to call them shit, but let's not forget they served up vision strikers, 13-0'd G2 on lan, and beat NA's hope Envy 3-0. we know how good gambit is, so it makes no sense to call them shit.
but yk, people needa have kneejerk reactions.
and SEN went flawless in Berlin, and cleaned up the whole NA scene. ANd yet they lost 2 games in Berlin and ppl start calling them shit. You dont see ppl saying that is kneejerk though
OkOkay [#17]It has Acend, gambit, fnatic, team liquid, giants, G2, supermassive blaze, Nip
Prize pool is only 60k and the winner only gets 20k…. How is that on the same level as the champions? Bcz champions will be definitely a tier 1 tounament
kristof [#30]Prize pool is only 60k and the winner only gets 20k…. How is that on the same level as the champions? Bcz champions will be definitely a tier 1 tounament
he's talking based on the quality of the teams, not the prize pool. I would prefer watch that tourney with low prize pool than a tourney with a huge prize pool and poor quality team.
Obviusly champs is bigger
MrCrespito [#31]he's talking based on the quality of the teams, not the prize pool. I would prefer watch that tourney with low prize pool than a tourney with a huge prize pool and poor quality team.
Obviusly champs is bigger
Still not tier 1
redlight [#3]bayern munich is probably the best football team in the world and they lost 5-0 in their league, but no one is calling them shit, because fans know how scary bayern is at champions league and even in Bayern's own league.
this is just like that: gambit lost 13-0 and we're prone to call them shit, but let's not forget they served up vision strikers, 13-0'd G2 on lan, and beat NA's hope Envy 3-0. we know how good gambit is, so it makes no sense to call them shit.
but yk, people needa have kneejerk reactions.
atleast get it right! they lost 5-0 in the german cup
unknown_trash [#34]VS would beat gambit so stfu with your "only na is good enough for gambit" crap. Watch at champions....
Copium kekw
laplace [#35]in that sense no NA tournament is tier 1 either because NA is bad
Not just bad but dead as well. There are no tournaments in NA besides the vct ones where top teams are participating
MrCrespito [#31]he's talking based on the quality of the teams, not the prize pool. I would prefer watch that tourney with low prize pool than a tourney with a huge prize pool and poor quality team.
Obviusly champs is bigger
In that sense the Smeag cup is also a tier 1 tournament right? Because tier 1 pros playing in it right?
kristof [#30]Prize pool is only 60k and the winner only gets 20k…. How is that on the same level as the champions? Bcz champions will be definitely a tier 1 tounament
the tier of tournament isn't dependent on the prize pool...
if champions had a 0$ prize pool would it be a tier 2 tournament?
yans0n [#39]the tier of tournament isn't dependent on the prize pool...
if champions had a 0$ prize pool would it be a tier 2 tournament?
It wouldnt even be called a tournament at that point
yans0n [#39]the tier of tournament isn't dependent on the prize pool...
if champions had a 0$ prize pool would it be a tier 2 tournament?
Also that sh*t wasnt even a lan, it was online. How the fk can you call an online tournament with a prize pool of 60k where only EMEA teams are participating a tier 1 tournament?
unknown_trash [#34]VS would beat gambit so stfu with your "only na is good enough for gambit" crap. Watch at champions....
https://www.vlr.gg/34975/vision-strikers-vs-gambit-esports-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-qf
you're welcome
unknown_trash [#34]VS would beat gambit so stfu with your "only na is good enough for gambit" crap. Watch at champions....
ok
kristof [#30]Prize pool is only 60k and the winner only gets 20k…. How is that on the same level as the champions? Bcz champions will be definitely a tier 1 tounament
"only" ?????
array [#15]So why are they not in champions then? You can be a non delusional fan if you havent heard yet
Because c9 diff
MrCrespito [#31]he's talking based on the quality of the teams, not the prize pool. I would prefer watch that tourney with low prize pool than a tourney with a huge prize pool and poor quality team.
Obviusly champs is bigger
Champions cant be higher in that sense because tier 1 is the highest level
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